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To: Longhair_and_Leather
But that is where it is my contention that only a belief in a benevolent God can prevent and/or halt that downward spiral. Without that, what stops one from justifying his behavior?

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You are just a bit naive on this, the world is far more complex.

Also, there are millions of strong, honest, ethical people who have no solid faith or faith of any kind. The Ethical Humanist philosophy is genuine and provides a road map for maintaining a positive level of decency in society without any recognition of God.

60 posted on 03/05/2009 5:13:46 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

So where does the ethics in ethical humanism come from? Without a fixed standard, what keeps it from changing? And who is to say that standard is right? Who determines that standard? Without a Supreme, omniscient being, there cannot be a fixed standard.


61 posted on 03/05/2009 4:20:53 PM PST by Longhair_and_Leather (The new presidential mantra--"Obama let babies die")
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