[umgud]

Last Christmas Eve, salesmen at Cabela's Sporting Goods store in Phoenix were surprised when two Hispanic men bought 24,000 rounds of 5.7 caliber bullets -- the same caliber used in FN "cop killers."

Just to keep the record straight, the 5.7x28's that are listed as "cop killers" aren't available for sale to the general public. These 24,000 are not cop killer's.

[Charles Martel]

Just to keep the record straight, the 5.7x28's that are listed as "cop killers" aren't available for sale to the general public. These 24,000 are not cop killer's.

That's true. It's interesting, though, that the new "must have" weapon of the Mexican drug gangs may be the P90. You know damned well that *those* aren't coming from the Estados Unidos.

[Myrddin]

Just to keep the record straight, the 5.7x28's that are listed as "cop killers" aren't available for sale to the general public. These 24,000 are not cop killer's.

The 5.7x28 ammo for sale in the U.S. is "sporting" ammo. It is either FMJ or hollow point with a plastic ballistic tip favored for small varmint hunting. The armor piercing variant of the ammo is not available for sale to the public. To make that claim is a lie.

[Mariner]

"These 24,000 are not cop killer's".

If I'm not mistaken, a .223 will penetrate a vest if aimed straight on...as will a shotgun slug.

Anyone know any different?

How long before shotgun slugs, .308 and 30.06 are outlawed?

[El Gato]

Just to keep the record straight, the 5.7x28's that are listed as "cop killers" aren't available for sale to the general public. These 24,000 are not cop killer's.

They are by the "new" definition, that being anything that can penetrate a standard, certified for pistol ammunition, vest. But then so is the ammo for my '40s vintage M1 Carbine.

They haven't put the "new definition" into the law, yet, but they are working on it.