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How Americans Lost Their Right To Own Gold And Became Criminals in the Process (long read)
http://users.rcn.com/mgfree/Economics/goldHistory.html ^ | unknown | Henry Mark Holzer

Posted on 02/28/2009 1:23:00 PM PST by wolfcreek

"Worst of all, the power which Congress delegated to the President enabled him to make criminals out of honest American citizens whose crime would consist only of trying to protect themselves from official debasement of their money. In more fundamental terms, Americans henceforth would be "under the gun" for exercising a fundamental, inalienable right: the right to deal with their own property as they saw fit. Gold, no matter what its special characteristics, is, after all, just another form of property."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: confication; contracts; fdr; gold; property
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To: Brilliant

Like I said, I’m not an expert in this subject.

What I see is Communism at work then and now. Property rights were stolen.


21 posted on 02/28/2009 2:29:17 PM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

“except for barter items.”

Even seen Mad Max?


22 posted on 02/28/2009 2:33:21 PM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

read later


23 posted on 02/28/2009 2:37:47 PM PST by Former MSM Viewer ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." W 2001)
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To: wolfcreek

Agreed, but I personally don’t think gold had much to do with it. The reason FDR banned the private ownership of gold was that gold was the source of money those days since we were on the gold standard, and he wanted to use every bit of the nation’s gold supply he could get his hands on to increase the base for the issuance of paper money. We were in a sustained deflation, and increasing the supply of money was the way to get out. Since we were on the gold standard, there was no way to do it other than for the government to take control of all the gold it could lay its hands on. In retrospect, a better way to handle the matter would have been just to print more money, but the philosophy of the age was against that.


24 posted on 02/28/2009 2:48:26 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Anti-Bubba182; wolfcreek
And it's been straight downhill ever since:

Dollar Value

Bump to read later; thanks.

25 posted on 02/28/2009 2:57:15 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

You could be correct.

At least 2 links I know of, have disappeared.


26 posted on 02/28/2009 3:26:55 PM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: wolfcreek

bumpforl8r


27 posted on 02/28/2009 3:29:58 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Off Hunting--- for the COLB)
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To: Brilliant
Gold, as currency, provided the Feds with an excellent, excuse for the implementation of *emergency* powers. Using patriotism and the fear of subversives to usurp their policies on the citizen of that time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_With_the_Enemy_Act

28 posted on 02/28/2009 3:37:43 PM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: wolfcreek

I don’t know what the motive would have been, though, other than what Roosevelt said it was. There would have been no reason for the government to own all the gold but the reason they gave. On the other hand, their strategy ultimately did not work. They still did not increase the money supply fast enough, and ultimately, they began to buy silver as well, and even that was not enough.

The biggest mistake that the New Dealers made was in assuming that they could stimulate the economy by manipulate the price structure, particularly the wage structure. It’s pure nonsense. All you do is cause inefficiency. It has no positive macroeconomic effect. To some degree, Obama is making the same mistake.


29 posted on 02/28/2009 3:46:18 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: wolfcreek
Might want to ping your list.

OMG, that's a long one I'll have to put back for a later read. I presume it discusses yet another in a long list of feral government usurpations???

30 posted on 02/28/2009 4:45:12 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately. - B.Franklin)
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To: Brilliant

Keynes wrote:

“Lenin was certainly right, there is no more positive, or subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency ... The process engages all of the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner that not one man in a million is able to diagnose.”

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=FinalWarn02-3#Gold

It was Communism at work then, as it is now.


31 posted on 02/28/2009 5:56:07 PM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: wolfcreek

Except that we can own gold now. And we’re more communist than ever.


32 posted on 02/28/2009 5:58:45 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: wolfcreek
Americans doing nothing to protect their liberty. Sick of it. Fill out your damned ballots and sit & stroke your newly illegal guns & ammo until the Obamapolizei come home and say you've done all you can, oh well.

Galt's Gulch is calling me. I'm done with American'ts.

33 posted on 02/28/2009 6:41:22 PM PST by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: wolfcreek
In 1957, Sen. George W. Malone of Nevada said before Congress about the Federal Reserve:

"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the past 49 years, they would move on Washington: they would not wait for an election ... It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States."
34 posted on 03/01/2009 6:09:41 AM PST by plsjr (<>< "Diversity" = "accept anything, including the worst" Choose the best on its own merits.)
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