Posted on 02/28/2009 7:17:29 AM PST by Delacon
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..blame Algore
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Earth was just fine in those times, Prof. Happer noted. The oceans were fine, plants grew, animals grew fine. So its baffling to me that were so frightened of getting nowhere close to where we started, Happer explained.
Thats all that needs to be said to any enviroweenie that gets in your face next time.
Earth to Obama, Earth to Obama, “hey buddy got your ears on?”
wouldn’t it be funny that we wipe out the human race because the gas that we thought will kill us so we try to eliminate it, is actually the gas that keep us alive
That would be funny.
I’m surprised Boxer didn’t call him a heretic to his face.
This testimony was probably given with maybe 2 or 3 Senators in attendance at this Committee meeting.
None of which were swayed from their present path.
“wouldnt it be funny that we wipe out the human race because the gas that we thought will kill us so we try to eliminate it, is actually the gas that keep us alive”
Ironic? Yes. Funny? No. ;)
Will this report put an end to the cap-and-trade bs?
The CO2 and other carbon hysteria has nothing to do about science and everything to do about stirring up emotions so huge new hidden taxes can be levied. Obama and his fellow travelers know that once they enact the recently announced “soak the rich” taxes, the only way they can raise significant money from the personal income tax is to tax the “middle class” and the lower classes who pay no income tax. Those voters would then wake up so they have to find hidden taxes to levy on the middle and lower classes.
The recent hike in the cigarette levy was the first stealth tax enacted and it falls primarily on the lower classes. Carbon taxes will also not be visible on one’s paycheck stub as those taxes will be paid by business. Fuel prices (oil, natural gas, electricity) will go up to cover these big new taxes and the politicians will proudly tell their constituents it is evil oil companies and utilities preying on them. More show trials in front of a few committees until the people go back to watching American Idol and forget about it.
In some ways the carbon tax is a less efficient way to impose the European “value added tax” (VAT) on the US taxpayer. Instead of taxing added value at each step in the supply chain, it taxes only the consumption of carbon emitting energy.
Oh no... lets PANIC because we don’t have much CARBON DIOXIDE. Oh wait, I’ll open a can of soda and plant a tree.
Didn’t you read about Dr Happer’s testimony already? It was pasted all over the front pages of the major newspapers. Sarcasm now switched to off.
Just by the sheer size of the natural generation of carbon dioxide from ongoing life processes, whatever feeble little amount that man produces shrivels to total insignificance.
Despite rulings to the contrary, carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant, and attempts to picture the substance as being so, are either displaying willful ignorance, or knowingly propagating a falsehood. Carbon dioxide is so bound up in our very life processes, it cannot ever be disentangled. We are a carbon-based life form, for cat’s sake, and plants NEED carbon dioxide to even exist. Carbon dioxide is an essential part of the life cycle of all humanity, the entire animal kingdom, the entire plant kingdom and a great many inorganic reactions that take place in the earths crust, oceans, atmosphere, and the interior of the planet, and MUST be preserved at all costs.
Water vapor is from some twenty to over 100 times as potent a “greenhouse gas” as carbon dioxide could ever be. And it would be totally pointless to regulate water vapor.
Air Composition
The sea-level composition of air (in percent by volume at the temperature of 15°C and the pressure of 101325 Pa) is given below.
Name - Symbol - Percent by Volume
Nitrogen - N2 - 78.084 %
Oxygen - O2 - 20.9476 %
Argon - Ar - 0.934 %
Carbon
Dioxide - CO2 - 0.0314 %
Neon - Ne - 0.001818 %
Methane - CH4 - 0.0002 %
Helium - He - 0.000524 %
Krypton - Kr - 0.000114 %
Hydrogen - H2 - 0.00005 %
Xenon - Xe - 0.0000087 %
Water vapor is a highly variable component of the atmosphere, ranging from less than 1% to more than 4% of the volume of a given amount of air, and is expressed as “relative humidity”.
Source:
CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics
by David R. Lide, Editor-in-Chief
1997 Edition
Know this and know it for a certainty: Carbon dioxide is plant food. Without it, plants wither and die. It is our OBLIGATION to increase carbon dioxide to the degree we are able, to aid our plant life on this planet to grow and extend to its maximum limit.
There is no climate “cure”, because there is no climate “disease”. We rely on carbon-based fuel, and the excess carbon dioxide merely goes into accelerated and extended plant growth. So long as we encourage plant growth at every juncture, by cultivation and land management, the content of carbon dioxide shall never rise much above about 0.05% concentration in the atmosphere.
Plants require carbon dioxide to conduct photosynthesis, and greenhouses may enrich their atmospheres with additional CO2 to boost plant growth, since its low present-day atmosphere concentration is just above the “suffocation” level for green plants. A photosynthesis-related drop in carbon dioxide concentration in a greenhouse compartment can kill green plants.
“Almost never has CO2 levels been as low as it has been in the Holocene (geologic epoch) 280 (parts per million - ppm) thats unheard of. Most of the time [CO2 levels] have been at least 1,000 (ppm) and its been quite higher than that, Happer told the Senate Committee.”
Senate Committee : “Don’t confuse us with the facts”
“ouldnt it be funny that we wipe out the human race because the gas that we thought will kill us so we try to eliminate it, is actually the gas that keep us alive”
If we’re dead, we won’t be around to laugh.
It also needs to be pointed out that to define and enforce an arbitrary “ideal” environmental standard for our atmosphere is the ultimate in arrogance. Who is to say what is the perfect condition?
All we hear about are the hundreds of physicists who applauded Algore at the recent AAAS meeting in (where else) Chicago. For a real barfer, check out the press release at http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2009/0215am_gore.shtml
The AAAS meeting was held concurrently with the winter meeting of the AAPT (American Assn of Physics Teachers) so a whole bunch of high school physics teachers to the full Gore treatment.
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