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Cost overruns have military facing 'train wreck,' McCain says [McCain+Levin] [bipartisan]
CNN ^ | 2009-02-24

Posted on 02/24/2009 3:08:19 PM PST by rabscuttle385

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Cost overruns on big-ticket Pentagon projects have left the U.S. military facing a budgetary "train wreck" at a time of growing budget deficits, Sen. John McCain said Tuesday.

McCain and Sen. Carl Levin, D-Michigan and the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said the cost of 95 major weapons systems -- ships, aircraft and armored vehicles -- have ballooned by a total of 30 percent in recent years, to about $1.3 trillion. The senators announced an effort, including legislation, to rein in that spending and tighten Defense Department oversight.

With U.S. troops fighting two wars overseas and personnel costs dominating the defense budget, "We're facing a train wreck," said McCain, the ranking Republican on the committee and the GOP's presidential candidate in 2008.

"We cannot continue on this path of escalating costs without at some point making some tough choices, which may endanger our nation's security," he said.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Michigan; War on Terror
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Leave it to McCain to talk about wrecking things in the military.

1 posted on 02/24/2009 3:08:19 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 02/24/2009 3:09:44 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: TADSLOS; cripplecreek

Have fun with this one.


3 posted on 02/24/2009 3:10:06 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

If Senor Juan McCain does anything with Levin he is an even bigger RINO moron than I thought.

RNC head Steele needs to add Juan McCain to the list of Senators who need a primary challenger. Steele said Snowe, Collins and Specter may get challenges. I will believe it when i see it.


4 posted on 02/24/2009 3:12:27 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: rabscuttle385

All you need when Bambi is ready to slice and dice the Military is an asshole that crashed 4 planes prior to being shot down yapping about cost overruns. I worked my butt off for this clown even though I have never supported him. I just couldn’t stand the alternative. Now that Bambi is running things our resident pussy can’t wait to help him. Bi-partisan my ass, if we were bi-partisan in 1776 we would still be speaking Cockney.


5 posted on 02/24/2009 3:14:01 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: rabscuttle385

I was on the precommissioning crew of the USS Eisenhower. I think we can thank the unionized workforce of major systems suppliers for this mess. The rules for the Navy people were structured in such a way that if we noticed an error the correction of that error actually cost the Navy money unless we followed very strict guidelines in reporting that error.

High wages and regulations requiring purchases from union shops certainly raise the labor costs significantly. Couple that with milspec’s that in some cases seem out of touch with current manufacturing practices and the entire cost skyrockets.

It is also significant that there exist “Cost over-runs” at all. I would think a contract is a contract. Unless the purchaser alters the design specifications it would appear to me that the contracted price should be what it is. If I remember correctly the Eisenhower actually cost about double what the contracted price was when all the over runs were added in. I wish I could get contracts like that!


6 posted on 02/24/2009 3:17:33 PM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: Frantzie
If Senor Juan McCain does anything with Levin he is an even bigger RINO moron than I thought.

He's just adding to the Bipartisan, hand across the isle list:

McCain-Feingold

McCain-Kennedy

McCain-Lieberman

7 posted on 02/24/2009 3:24:32 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet

If McCain really wanted to be a maverick...

McCain-GOP


8 posted on 02/24/2009 3:26:44 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: rabscuttle385
"But Wheeler said defense spending produces "significantly less" employment than spending in other areas, such as mass transit or health care. "

Nice to see that they have their priorities in the right places - it's all about jobs [votes] and not silliness such as national defense, health, or transportation.

9 posted on 02/24/2009 3:34:59 PM PST by norton
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To: mortal19440

My sentiments exactly! Trust me I know how it felt to work for McCain knowing I didn’t really like him but ZERO was so bad I swallowed hard. He should never have been put in Armed Services IMHO. Maybe if he wasn’t there, we would have the tanker in production.


10 posted on 02/24/2009 4:03:08 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Mary Fallin for OK Governor in 2010! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: rabscuttle385

2010: McCain lied. Troops died.


11 posted on 02/24/2009 5:13:04 PM PST by TADSLOS (Come and Take it!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I wish I lived in Arizona so I could vote against that treacherous POS. Anyone, even the basest demonrat, would be preferable.

After being forced to vote for him once by the fools who selected him in the primary, being able to deny him a further chance to betray the gop would be a truly cathartic act.


12 posted on 02/24/2009 5:32:00 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg
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To: mortal19440
an asshole that crashed 4 planes

I'm guessing that one of those planes was the one he lost on the Forrestal. The one where a missile from the other side of the deck accidentally fired and hit his fuel tank and dropped two 1000 lb bombs on the burning deck. This “asshole” escaped by walking down the refueling probe, jumping into the fire and rolling free. Then this “asshole” turned around and followed the fire crew back into the fire to try and save Fred White, the pilot of the plane next to his. One of the bombs cooked off, killing White and the fire crew and wounding McCain. Is this the “asshole” you're talking about, asshole?

13 posted on 02/24/2009 6:24:09 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: PhiKapMom
Luke Air Force Base just west of Phoenix is a major economic driver in Arizona. It provices tens of thousands of jobs and millions of dollars annually in payroll and contracts. Any state would love to have it. It's been there since WWI. Over the years the city has grown up around it causing restrictions in its operations.

McCain voted for the Base Closure and Realignment Commission (BRAC) which was designed to allow the Armed Services to decide which bases to keep open based on the needs off the Services rather than politics. Unfortunately there were ways around BRAC and a powerful Senator could keep a base in his state, even if the Services decided another base would be better.

During the last round of BRAC there were very strong rumors that Luke was to be closed. Well, hell, nobody in Arizona was worried, we had John McCain. Former flyboy, Presidential candidate, Senator with seniority, Armed Services Committee, there wasn't any BRAC that was going to screw with us.

McCain had other ideas. He simply announced that he had voted for BRAC, that he would help make the pitch for keeping Luke but that BRAC's decision was final. He would have no part in subverting the Commission.

Integrity.

14 posted on 02/24/2009 6:41:09 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Sure is, the same asshole who lost two in training and one flat hatting. Lucky Daddy was a Four Star, when I went through you didn’t get more than one chance if you were the least bit to blame. Ya, that’s the asshole I’m talking about.


15 posted on 02/24/2009 6:41:45 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Cannot believe he wouldn’t fight to keep Luke but then John McCain never ceases to amaze me in the wrong way!


16 posted on 02/24/2009 6:52:07 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Mary Fallin for OK Governor in 2010! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: mortal19440
OK, give him the three. He was there when and where it counted. While a former President was valiantly defending the Louisiana coast. McCain had a ticket to Hawaii after the Forrestal. He went back to the Oriskany. Back over Hanoi.

After he was shot down he had a get out of jail free card. Daddy was a Four Star. He refused. For five years he refused to go to the front of the line. For five years he took the beatings that he could have ended with one sentence. A child of privilege.

17 posted on 02/24/2009 7:01:23 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: PhiKapMom

It was the military’s decision on whether or not to keep Luke or whether the functions could better be performed elsewhere. McCain helped make the case for Luke but he was clear that politics did not enter in the process. The BRAC decision was final. In this regard McCain was just like Goldwater.


18 posted on 02/24/2009 7:06:23 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Good points, I have always admired his guts him I just don’t like him.


19 posted on 02/24/2009 7:33:18 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: mortal19440

Have a good night.


20 posted on 02/24/2009 7:34:09 PM PST by mortal19440
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