Soldier doubts eligibility, defies president's orders

WND ^ | February 23, 2009 | Bob Unruh

[Joiseydude]

A U.S. soldier on active duty in Iraq has called President Obama an "impostor" in a statement in which he affirmed plans to join as plaintiff in a challenge to Obama's eligibility to be commander in chief.

The statement was publicized by California attorney Orly Taitz who, along with her Defend Our Freedom Foundation, is working on a series of legal cases seeking to uncover Obama's birth records and other documents that would reveal whether he meets the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

"As an active-duty officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of president of the United States," wrote Scott Easterling in a "to-whom-it-may-concern" letter.

[little jeremiah]

Ah, you checked in!

“Leave Barack alone!”

[little jeremiah]

Defeatists like you should shut up and go back into the fetal position.

[awake-n-angry]

UCMJ
“ART. 88. CONTEMPT TOWARD OFFICIALS
Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. “

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Ledt me get this straight. A commissioned officer in the US military is refusing to follow orders in a combat zone for political reasons and the populous of FR is cheering. Now I have seen everything. The precedent that this is setting is the end of the republic.

Isn’t desertion during time of war punishable by death?

[Las Vegas Ron]

FUBO. Let’s spread the word.

Added to the tag line

[wac3rd]

I am going to.

I just need to contact Mr. Robinson about how to deactivate my subscription to FR. I also need to end my viewing of Red State, Michelle Malkin, etc.

I am OK with Socialism. The cost of fighting it will be death. Do you think those million-dollar drones used on terrorists in Afghanistan couldn't be used in Indiana? DO you think it's an accident a Marxist Muslim is in power with a Civilian Corps that will rival the military.

Look at a playground at an elementary school in California, nearly 95% of the schoolyard in lower-to-middle class areas are Latino and Asian, whites are being forced into nursing homes or gated communities.

The new paradigm is not 1950’s America of mom, dad, apple pie and baseball...it is graffiti, single-motherhood, welfare and urban and rural blight.

I hate to say it, but I'm out! There is no hope and keeping below the sandbags may save my life...if you don't think all these blogs are monitored and recorded, you are naive.

[Non-Sequitur]

That's up to the good Lieutenant, since if Obama has no right to tell him what to do, then anything he is forced to do at Obama’s behest is inappropriate if he wants call it so!

And as I've mentioned on several occasions, the military takes a dim view of soldiers who decide what orders to obey and what not to. And the track record of those soldiers who have tried it is not very good.

Seriously, Is this a filed matter?

Seriously, I don't know. Taitz has just said she's signed him up for her latest legal foray. To the best of my knowledge he hasn't refused to obey any orders, so he hasn't been placed under any charges.

Do we know AOR (Attorney Of Record?)

Orly Taitz and her Defend Our Freedom Foundation I assume.

Will they take a contribution?

Will Taitz take contributions? All you've got and all you can borrow, rest assured.

[Non-Sequitur]

His case now is for prevention, rather then compensation or redress.... and that certainly is an arguable case!

Prevention of what? Could be, may be, might be injury? Or not? Hardly the kind of standing to build a case on.

[TomasUSMC]

Yeah, the Left will use this to show obambi how dangerous and racist the military is ....reasons for which obambi should cut the military and build up his own Obambination Security Force.

[PurpleMan]

Cut to the quick! Maybe libertarianism but never liberalism.

[Crystal Cove]

Of course, you’d rather act childish than address a perfectly logical post.

[little jeremiah]

I’m sick of liberals on FR, that’s all.

[little jeremiah]

Just saw this elsewhere:

"They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a [military] guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of Hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the Holy cause of Liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.

Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.

Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable--and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come."

-- Patrick Henry

[AZ .44 MAG]

You wrote:

The annual fatalities, by any cause, of military members while actively serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006:

1980 — 2,392 (Carter)

1981 — 2,380 (Reagan)

1984 — 1,999 (Reagan)

1988 — 1,819 (Reagan)

1989 — 1,636 (George H W)

1990 — 1,508 (George H W)

1991 — 1,787 (George H W)

1992 — 1,293 (George H W)

1993 — 1,213 (Clinton)

1994 — 1,075 (Clinton)

1995 — 2,465 (Clinton)

1996 — 2,318 (Clinton)

1997 — 817 (Clinton)

1998 — 2,252 (Clinton)

1999 — 1,984 (Clinton)

2000 — 1,983 (Clinton)

2001 — 890 (George W)

2002 — 1,007 (George W)

2003 — 1,410 (George W)

2004 — 1,887 (George W)

2005 — 919 (George W)

2006 — 920 (George W)

2007 — 899 (George W)

Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,107 deaths

George W years (2001-2007): 7,932 deaths

Here's what I saw on the linked document for the Clintoon Years. I cut and pasted directly from the linked report www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf . Which,BTW, doesn't show anything for 2007:

1993 1,213

1994 1,075

1995 1,040

1996 974

1997 817

1998 827

1999 796

2000 758

With the following for President Bush's years:

2001 891

2002 999

2003 1,228

2004 1,874

2005 1,942

2006 1,858

With the following disclaimer at the bottom of the page:

Note: Distorted versions of Tables 4 and 5 have been circulating through the Internet. As the tables here and on the Department of Defense website show, total military deaths and hostile deaths increased from 2001 to 2005, and then decreased in 2006.

Total for Clintoon- 7500

Total for President Bush- 8792

I think that pretty much matches the graph that Gondring posted in #124. And I think it's a disgrace that Clintoon killed almost as many as President Bush while defending Muslims and providing a meals on wheels program to the world. At least President Bush was doing what he could to protect us with the troops.

I wanted to send it on too but as Eagle Eye instructed me some time ago, if you're going to make claims, even claims that you personally experienced, it's best to have proof.

[Mad Dawgg]

"Soldier doubts eligibility, defies president's orders"

Well one thing is for sure, it will be a hoot to see the "Dissent Is Patriotic/Bush Hating Crowd" turn verbal gymnastics trying to talk their way round this!

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

And I think it's a disgrace that Clintoon killed almost as many as President Bush while defending Muslims and providing a meals on wheels program to the world.

Only 76 of those deaths under Clinton were attributed to hostile action or terrorist attack.

[MindBender26]

Please read prior posts. We are repeating points again and again.

The standing issue is simple. If the Lt. is not a member in good standing of a recognized armed force, following legal orders, (the Geneva standards) and he kills someone in an offensive operation, he could be considered a murderer.

For example, If he was ordered to patrol in Iraq, and the US rules of engagement allowed him to engage (kill) anyone carrying a rifle (even though they were not making any hostile move towards him) then he is protected as a member of the US Army.

However, if it could be established that he was not following a legally issued order, (because the CINC was not legally the President,) then he places himself in jeopardy of a murder accusation or other prosecution by the Hague, host country or other self-serving do-gooders.

(Please note that I am not saying a “legal order” but rather “legally issued order.’” Two very different things)

New and WaterBoy attacked the LEGALITY OF THE ORDERS THEMSELVES, not the LEGAL STANDING (AUTHORITY) OF THE ULTIMATE ISSUER.

Issue that would be before the court is: Is Obama POTUS... or as I now call him, POTPOPOTUS; "Pretender Occupying The Position Of President Of The United States."

Lt. certainly has the standing to ask a US court to clarify the issue of the legality of THE ISSUE OF his orders, and that certainly depends on Obama's citizenship status!

It's far from far-fetched..... and it's that simple, and that serious.

[myself6]

Sorry guy...

I want the officers in the military to defend the CONSTITUTION and FREEDOM against ALL enemies...

INCLUDING THE DOMESTIC ONES. ESPECIALLY IF THE DOMESTIC ONES HAVE ACQUIRED THE POWER OF GOVERNMENT!!!

Your late to the party friend... The republic is already dead.

[AZ .44 MAG]

I didn’t know that.

[wac3rd]

I appreciate the Patrick Henry reference as I am a native Virginian, but my personal resolve has diminished to the point of no return.

[KarenMarie]

Just wanted to jump in and interrupt here for a sec....

I really enjoy reading you. I learn so much. Thank you.

That’s all... carry on.

:)