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Recent Human Variation Is Not Evolution (evidence points to recent creation)
ICR ^ | February 23, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 02/23/2009 10:05:02 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: rjsimmon

http://www.christianpost.com/Entertainment/Books/2007/06/behe-describes-the-edge-of-evolution-in-newest-id-book-22/index.html

“He does agree that the world is billions of years old and that all life did originate from a common ancestor, because “overwhelming anatomical, genetic, and fossil evidence exists for that claim.”


121 posted on 02/23/2009 12:27:06 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: rjsimmon

http://www.intelligentdesignnetwork.org/NCBQ3_3HarrisCalvert.pdf

Page 8 of 31 describing Behe’s work.


122 posted on 02/23/2009 12:32:13 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater

So, Dr. Behe believes the world is billions of years old and that dictates what the ID mantra has to be? While I agree with quite a bit of what Dr. Behe posits, this in no wise dictates that ID holds to the exact same thing. From what I have read, there are many threads within the ID community.

Further, this has little to nothing to do with what we were discussing.

Good side thread, though. Thank you for the information.


123 posted on 02/23/2009 12:37:00 PM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-13)
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To: rjsimmon
So, Dr. Behe believes the world is billions of years old and that dictates what the ID mantra has to be? While I agree with quite a bit of what Dr. Behe posits, this in no wise dictates that ID holds to the exact same thing. From what I have read, there are many threads within the ID community.

I gave you the ID site! So you know more about ID than they do? Additionally, Mr. Behe was the prime witness for the ID movement in the Dover trials! Mr. Behe is additionally the number one expert at the Discovery site which is also probably the number one promoter of ID.

124 posted on 02/23/2009 12:40:18 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: rjsimmon
Further, this has little to nothing to do with what we were discussing.

It has everything to do with what we were discussing. That of God as a designer which you brought up.

125 posted on 02/23/2009 12:41:07 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: atlaw
Which leads to one of the great mysteries of Intelligent Meteorology -- What does God have against mobile homes?

LOL!!!

126 posted on 02/23/2009 12:41:59 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: rjsimmon
From what I have read, there are many threads within the ID community.

Please show me one that holds differently. I won't hold my breath.

127 posted on 02/23/2009 12:42:27 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: rjsimmon

http://www.amazon.com/Intelligent-Design-101-Leading-Experts/dp/0825427819


128 posted on 02/23/2009 12:48:21 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: Moonman62
Not only that, but it turns people with brains away from God.

Wouldn't/Hasn't God made allowances for that?

129 posted on 02/23/2009 12:48:50 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: js1138

I ask how much science education people like you and GGG (Mr. Spam)have because I want to know how much “ammunition” you are armed with in this debate.

I have a PhD in molecular biology, now tell us your backgrounds.


130 posted on 02/23/2009 12:50:37 PM PST by Wacka
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To: GodGunsGuts
My pleasure. If you’re interested, check my history as I post [around 10 useless] new articles/papers opinion pieces on the creation, [strawman version of] evolution, ID debate pretty much on a daily basis. All the best [Unless your an "evoatheist", then I hate you] —GGG

/Fixed

131 posted on 02/23/2009 12:50:45 PM PST by whattajoke (.)
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To: ColdWater
I gave you the ID site! So you know more about ID than they do? Additionally, Mr. Behe was the prime witness for the ID movement in the Dover trials! Mr. Behe is additionally the number one expert at the Discovery site which is also probably the number one promoter of ID.

Okay. How is that any of my concern? Dr. Behe is far more educated than I and I have read a good deal of his beliefs in the "Case for a Creator" book. His belief that we came from some common ancestor is not necessarily the ID movements core tenet. The ID site says nothing about it that I can find.

132 posted on 02/23/2009 12:55:05 PM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-13)
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To: ColdWater
It has everything to do with what we were discussing. That of God as a designer which you brought up.

No, that is slight of hand on your part. You transited from my belief in God as designer to my having to now be in accord with the ID movement. Bad form.

133 posted on 02/23/2009 12:56:48 PM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-13)
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To: Wacka

I think you have missed the irony tag in some of my postings. I don’t have a PhD in anything, but I don’t have a fight with those who do. I find it amusing that so many people on FR think they are qualified to judge all of science.

Even folks like Michael Behe don’t try that.


134 posted on 02/23/2009 12:57:30 PM PST by js1138
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To: rjsimmon

Still waiting, but NOT holding my breath for you link.


135 posted on 02/23/2009 1:03:11 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: rjsimmon

Still waiting, but NOT holding my breath for you link.


136 posted on 02/23/2009 1:03:17 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: rjsimmon

You ask for me to provide a link to back up my position and I give you several. I ask you to return the favor and I get “No replies”. Thanks.


137 posted on 02/23/2009 1:44:52 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater
Still waiting, but NOT holding my breath for you link

My apologies for being tardy to respond, but when the Marine Corps says 'go run', I go run.

what link? What is it you want?

138 posted on 02/23/2009 1:56:20 PM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-13)
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To: ColdWater
You ask for me to provide a link to back up my position and I give you several. I ask you to return the favor and I get “No replies”. Thanks.

Why are you getting snippy? You have not asked a question that I can provide a link to, that I can recall.

139 posted on 02/23/2009 1:59:00 PM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-13)
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To: rjsimmon
Why are you getting snippy? You have not asked a question that I can provide a link to, that I can recall.

Do you have such a short memory or is it only selective recall. You said that there were many ID sites that did not support evolution. I asked you to provide a link.

140 posted on 02/23/2009 2:03:28 PM PST by ColdWater
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