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To: RipSawyer
He would not be a natual born citizen even if he was born in the United States.

Yes he would. His mother was a US citizen. There are questions about whether his citizenship, if he ever had it, was forfeited when he was adoped by his mother's second husband Mr. Sottero who was an Inonesian citizen.

88 posted on 02/22/2009 5:51:59 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (If the feds can't competently handle the DTV transition, why should we trust them with health care?)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I don’t think so, to be natural born he needs two parents who are citizens at the time of his birth, at least that was the original meaning of the term. Now, of course, we have millions who don’t have any real idea who their father is. The matter of British and or Indonesian citizenship also comes into play, it seems to be established that he traveled to Pakistan at a time when he could not have gone on an American passport. If all the rules were followed (a big if) I don’t think he could qualify even with a Hawaiin birth certificate.


107 posted on 02/22/2009 6:04:11 PM PST by RipSawyer (I have scant HOPE for the PRESENT absent a major CHANGE.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Did the affiramtive action poseur-in-chief have a father? Was that father an American citizen? ... Barack Obama, aka Barry Soertoro, aka Barry Dunham, aka Barry Obama did not have two American citizen parents. He is not a natural born citizen, though he appears to be a citizen ... but that may be in question, too, since he’s buried his passport and college entry records where he may well have used foreign student status to game those systems.


117 posted on 02/22/2009 6:19:06 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

It amazes me after all of this time we still get posters who make the kind of claim that you just did.

His mother DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENT TO GIVE HIM U.S. CITIZENSHIP IF HE WAS BORN OUTSIDE OF THE U.S.

Do some research.


122 posted on 02/22/2009 6:29:30 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Paleo Conservative
There are questions about whether his citizenship, if he ever had it, was forfeited when he was adoped by his mother's second husband Mr. Sottero who was an Inonesian citizen.

There are no questions about that. There were no provisions under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 for a minor child to lose their US citizenship, whether through adoption or having been naturalized as a citizen in another country. Nor are there any such provisions under the current Immigration and Nationality Act (1986).

The questions only arose because Phil Berg never bothered to actually read the law, which directly contradicts the claims made in his lawsuit.

And since Indonesia did not allow for dual citizenship, there would not have been any way for Obama to have legally become an Indonesian citizen.


202 posted on 02/22/2009 9:21:32 PM PST by Michael Michael
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