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'Ruthless' for Obama (Camp Obama circa Sept. 2007)
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | September 4, 2007 | Abdon M. Pallasch

Posted on 02/21/2009 9:16:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

"The next tip is to be absolutely ruthless," Jocelyn Woodards tells the campers. "We want you to be determined, ambitious, take a risk."

No toasted marshmallows here. This is the second day of Camp Obama, a two-day (sometimes four-day) intensive training course in becoming an activist to help get Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) elected president.

"It's not enough for you to be a supporter of Barack. You have to go out and build an organization that will deliver votes for Barack Obama," Woodards tells the 40 campers -- most in their 20s -- from around the country gathered at the campaign's national headquarters in the West Loop.

Obama is not like other candidates, and part of this training is learning to mimic the methods he used before he was an elected official -- back when he was a community organizer in Chicago following the textbook of legendary agitator Saul Alinsky.

Saul Alinsky wanted results

Rivals of Obama know that while he may at times appear to channel Martin Luther King Jr., his methods sometimes give evidence of his allegiance to Alinsky, who shunned starry-eyed idealists and recommended purging do-gooders from organizations. Alinsky wanted results. And his methods often forced the hands of elected officials.

It's not enough to want to help others, Woodards says. These campers need to focus on people's self-interests. What do they want? How can Obama help them?

"We want you to stop thinking about Barack Obama and be Barack Obama," she says.

"What do you want?" Woodards asks Katie Murphy, 30, of Bartlett. Since her son was born with a heart defect 10 months ago, Murphy has had to stay home to give him constant care and fight with the insurance company about what expenses are_and are not covered. Murphy wants a better national health-care plan.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: acorn; agenda; agitator; alinsky; bho2009; bho44; campobama; communityorganizer; democrats; obama; obamabrownshirts; organizer; saulalinsky; socialism
Funny that we didn't hear much about this during the campaign.
1 posted on 02/21/2009 9:16:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and when the nationalized health plan denies her kid coverage? What is she going to do then?


2 posted on 02/21/2009 9:22:40 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: txnativegop

And while we’re at it, who “sent” Kris’s brother to Iraq? We don’t have a draft, haven’t had one since 1973, in fact. So he must be a volunteer, right?


3 posted on 02/21/2009 9:26:38 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("To insist on strength is not war-mongering. It is peace-mongering." Barry Goldwater)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Details . . . Details . . . Don’t Bother the Liberals with details. it will hurt them deeply. (I Hope)


4 posted on 02/21/2009 9:28:02 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Agitation = making someone else pay my bills


5 posted on 02/21/2009 9:40:29 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like some of Pol Pot’s Kmer Rouge propaganda
style training.

...”stop thinking about Barck Obama and be Barack Obama...”


6 posted on 02/21/2009 9:40:48 PM PST by Semper Mark (As graceful as a bulldozer and as subtle as a wrecking ball.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A lot of these people are so hopped up to be a part of something, they don’t really care what it is.


7 posted on 02/21/2009 9:51:15 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (We didn't have to take any of it seriously, did we?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Very powerful stuff. I do not believe that the GOP candidates would have been anywhere near as organized as this.

Certainly nobody in New Zealand’s elections were as organized as this, either.


9 posted on 02/21/2009 9:56:20 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” funny we didn’t hear about this during the campaign”

It was out there. I read about this and there are the pictures of those teen boys in cammies and black t shirts..all this was out there and on videos some posted here on FR.


10 posted on 02/21/2009 10:13:07 PM PST by celtic gal (I think the democRATs should change their logo from a jackass to a RAT with a long tail.)
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To: celtic gal

I did too, I meant the voting public in general.


11 posted on 02/21/2009 10:22:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("To insist on strength is not war-mongering. It is peace-mongering." Barry Goldwater)
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"Funny that we didn't hear much about this during the campaign."

The article was from 2007.

Note to the RNC: Dear Mr. Steele, Please advise me when and where the Activist Bootcamps will be held for Conservative Republican volunteers, who want to take back America. Thank you. Sincerely, ChicagahAl

12 posted on 02/21/2009 10:27:11 PM PST by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is a lot the voting public didn’t want to hear or read..my sister in law today finally listened..she did not go past Change Change Change...she had no idea who some of the playres were and are in 0bama’s life and how he developed his philosophy. We talked about the housing issue and I think it is finally starting to sink in to some of these democrats...after all their house values took a dip like the rest of us and now they have the nerve to gripe..I want to tell them to shut the F up...they asked for this. They want to blame Bush to which I tell them to go check the records..17 times the Bust administration sent out warnings and the congress did nothing but support this disaster.
This is going to be lots worse before it gets better. I hope people will wake up before too much more damage can be done to America and that 0bama and this irresponsible congress can be stopped.
Can’t you just imagine as many or more that attended the immauguration marching with pitchforks and hammer handles and baseball bats marching down the park from the Capital to the WH in an effort to remove these people! There was that million man march for the black was it peace keepers or whatever it was a few years ago..well there could be a million people march just as large to make the point this is to remain a Republic and a capitalist nation not one of socailism or worse.


13 posted on 02/21/2009 10:45:03 PM PST by celtic gal (I think the democRATs should change their logo from a jackass to a RAT with a long tail.)
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To: Markos33

Go read Eric Hoffer’s “True Believer”. Some libraries still have a copy around (mid-50’s production). Hoffer laid out how a mass movement would occur and the primary features that make mass movements possible (he used Hitler and various leaders to demonstrate this). What you see here...is straight out of the book. Obama has charged up the crowd and they are all true believers in his words.


14 posted on 02/21/2009 11:53:13 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: celtic gal
...17 times the Bust administration sent out warnings ...

Got a handy reference to these?

15 posted on 02/22/2009 12:03:30 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's Salinsky through and through.
16 posted on 02/22/2009 12:46:16 AM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: TheThinker

600 million dollars spent and training camps and unprecedented voter fraud with acorn and all they could muster was about 63 million votes.

If conservatives had shown up at polls and catholics stayed with the gop , Obama would have lost anyway ....


17 posted on 02/22/2009 8:16:03 AM PST by RED SOUTH
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