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Madoff trustee: No securities bought for customers in 13 years
MarketWatch ^ | Feb. 20, 2009 11:44 a.m. EST | MarketWatch

Posted on 02/20/2009 10:27:09 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 02/20/2009 10:27:09 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Was Madoff’s hedge fund paying for the Investor Insurance?
If not..why would his investors qualify?


2 posted on 02/20/2009 10:29:26 AM PST by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
the trustee, Irving Picard


3 posted on 02/20/2009 10:32:30 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Oldexpat

“Was Madoff’s hedge fund paying for the Investor Insurance?
If not..why would his investors qualify?”

GOOD question. Is this like FDIC insurance for banks..in other words....tax $$$$??? Something that was set up to protect big investors?

“said the firm’s customers can recover up to the $500,000 they’re entitled to under the Securities Investor Protection Act. “


4 posted on 02/20/2009 10:33:33 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Now this is an interesting turn of events.

Mark my words, folks . . . the details of this story reach way up into the upper echelon of the U.S. government, which is why most of these details will never see the light of day.

5 posted on 02/20/2009 10:36:11 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: AuntB

There are small fees that are charged on the exchanges for every trade that go to various things, from SEC, enforcement, regulation, and this type of program.


6 posted on 02/20/2009 10:37:28 AM PST by farlander (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Alberta's Child

This guy must have been some kind of genius? How could he make this last that long without buying any securitiesn in 13n years?!


7 posted on 02/20/2009 10:38:07 AM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: Revolting cat!

Irving Picard’s credentials and photo are available at

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:AEJO69cOulwJ:www.bakerlaw.com/IrvingHPicard+%22Irving+Picard%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us


8 posted on 02/20/2009 10:40:32 AM PST by OldNavyVet (Individual freedom is measurable ... If taxes take all you earn, you are a slave.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I guess it takes some “smarts” to be able to pull something like this off, for “13 years”... LOL... what a deal!

It makes one wonder how much of the *entire financial system* is actually “smoke and mirrors” (like this) and is not really there, at all. I think we’re gonna get a lot of this type of “fallout” as many kinds of financial instruments and/or companies are going to be “forced clean” by the economy, or go bust.

And it’s all that is going on like that, which is causing the Great Depression, which will deepen considerably more, all during 2009...


9 posted on 02/20/2009 10:40:52 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: nickcarraway
He wasn't a genius. We're going to find out that most of his "victims" were actually willing accomplices.

The only problem is that they were accomplices to something other than what Madoff was doing with their money (in other words, they thought he was perpetrating a different kind of scam in which they themselves were supposed to be the beneficiaries).

It only became a "crisis" when the co-conspirators/victims found out that the scam wasn't what they thought it was.

10 posted on 02/20/2009 10:43:36 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Alberta's Child

That was all known. For him to make this last 13+ years without buying any securities is unbelievable.


11 posted on 02/20/2009 10:45:06 AM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: AuntB

I did a quick calculation...2,350 claims so far at $500,000 each would mount up to...1.175 Billion $....that would be an upper bound ...if there are no more claims.


12 posted on 02/20/2009 10:46:09 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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To: nickcarraway

He was not a genius. He was well-connected and had built up a reputation that was false.

He is no different than the old snake-oil salesman of years gone by.

Stanford the next financial fraud is the same. Telling people what they want to hear even though there is no way he could deliver what he was selling.


13 posted on 02/20/2009 10:47:17 AM PST by Moconservative
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To: nickcarraway; AuntB

I wonder if buying Corporate Notes or Treasury Notes count?


14 posted on 02/20/2009 10:48:28 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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To: rabscuttle385; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Fred Nerks; Marine_Uncle; SunkenCiv; blam; ...

fyi


15 posted on 02/20/2009 10:49:56 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It seems it was posted a short time ago that the fund was nearly broke. There was probably a bail out somewhere in those 1000 pages of stimulus pork and no one has found it yet.


16 posted on 02/20/2009 10:54:31 AM PST by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: Moconservative

Okay, yes. But how can one create a scheme like this for so much money and for so long. It’ almost impossible to believe.


17 posted on 02/20/2009 10:55:03 AM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well, those are securities.


18 posted on 02/20/2009 10:57:43 AM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; TigerLikesRooster; rabscuttle385

How many more mega-Madoffs and super-Stanfords are just waiting to blow up?

Folks, do you really “own” the securities you think you own?


19 posted on 02/20/2009 10:59:53 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Star Traveler

I endorse a “Jubilee Year” in whcich all debts are forgien and we reset the economy.


20 posted on 02/20/2009 11:05:50 AM PST by happygrl (BORG: Barack 0bama Resistance Group: we will not be assimilated)
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