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Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [even home users] [it's for the children]
CNET ^ | 2009-02-19 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 02/20/2009 6:01:36 AM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: rabscuttle385

In other news, Republican minority status in Congress is predicted to last until at least 2020.


21 posted on 02/20/2009 6:37:49 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m certain that these politicians will have their home computers tapped as well. /sarc


22 posted on 02/20/2009 6:38:19 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

PING!

They don’t call it the stupid party for nothing!


23 posted on 02/20/2009 6:40:05 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: rabscuttle385

With Republicans like this, who needs Democrats?


24 posted on 02/20/2009 6:40:10 AM PST by George Smiley (They're not drinking the Kool-Aid any more. They're eating it straight out of the packet.)
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To: 9YearLurker
This, folks, is the bad side of the social-conservative/authoritarian leg to the Reagan Coalition stool. (And kudos to Reagan for keeping it in check as much as he did!)

This has *nothing* to do with the Social Conservative agenda. This is globalism, pure and simple.

25 posted on 02/20/2009 6:40:47 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Republican politicians on Thursday called for a sweeping new federal law that would require all Internet providers and operators of millions of Wi-Fi access points, even hotels, local coffee shops, and home users, to keep records about users for two years to aid police investigations.

Just about the republicans start to head toward the right path, someone jumps out front and craps on the trail.

26 posted on 02/20/2009 6:41:22 AM PST by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: rabscuttle385
Keeping track of where we go on the Internet is just a very small step from blocking where we go. We could end up with Internet access like that in China where a cartoon censor blocks access to sites the government deems objectionable. More over who would pay the cost of maintaining these lists? The cost and privacy implications would probably cause many of the free wi-fi hotspots we enjoy today to close down. Lastly this system would cause an explosive growth of underground proxy servers that would camouflage where the user was going.

Australia is already moving to this form of Internet censorship ostensibly to prevent access to child pornography, but already the government is adding to the list of objectionable sites and could easily declare sites like this to contain objectionable hate speech. read article here

27 posted on 02/20/2009 6:43:31 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: WarEagle

I never liked Corynyn. He promoted the Real ID Act along at the same time, more breaks for illegals.Legislation rules these days, if you want to push a P.O.S. that no one wants, just mention, “it’s for the childrun” !


28 posted on 02/20/2009 6:43:46 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: rabscuttle385

guilty before innocent.

Stupid party in action.


29 posted on 02/20/2009 6:44:12 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: roamer_1

Hey, I didn’t say it was the good side of it! But yes, using state authority to ‘protect’ children is clearly a leaning of the social conservative (rather than libertarian) end of the Republican tent. Almost by definition they are the ones more inclined to use state power to enforce morality. In this case, massive state intrusion to prospectively stop some crimes. You can’t tell me this is a civil libertarian propensity!


30 posted on 02/20/2009 6:44:37 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: usconservative

If folks had any idea how easy it is to spoof a MAC addy, they would know what a silly waste of time this whole idea is- Therefore, it must have another, more nefarious purpose.


31 posted on 02/20/2009 6:45:38 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I notice it’s Republicans doing this.

Gee, sure sounds like they got the right message from their drubbing, huh? /sarc


32 posted on 02/20/2009 6:48:51 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: rabscuttle385
My son installed WiFi about six months ago in his small business and mentions it in his advertising. Wouldn't his ISP (ATT) store this data? OTOH I can see some Pervert parking next to the building and logging on at night. Any bets that Libraries will be exempt...
33 posted on 02/20/2009 6:53:28 AM PST by tubebender (Why do they sterilize the needle for lethal injections?)
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To: rabscuttle385
*sigh*

Those deck chairs sure are crooked. I must go straighten them!

34 posted on 02/20/2009 6:55:17 AM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: bamahead

/mark


35 posted on 02/20/2009 7:04:52 AM PST by KoRn (Autumn Has Come To The Tree of Liberty)
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To: Obadiah
And people wonder why Republicans get a bad rap. Sometimes a bad rap is richly deserved.

Exactly right!

36 posted on 02/20/2009 7:08:31 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: rabscuttle385; bamahead

It’s garbage like this that prevents me from ever being a republican.

They claim to be for limited government, yet they jump at the chance to implement ‘big brother’ type policies such as this one.


37 posted on 02/20/2009 7:09:06 AM PST by KoRn (Autumn Has Come To The Tree of Liberty)
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To: roamer_1

“If folks had any idea how easy it is to spoof a MAC addy, they would know what a silly waste of time this whole idea is- Therefore, it must have another, more nefarious purpose.”

I have 17 hotspots within range from my living room. Two of them use WAP encryption, nine use WEP encryption, the remaining six are open. How hard do they think it would be for me to use one of those other hotspots... Should i ever do anythign that nefarious. And how in the heck do they think they are going to get all of these router retrofitted with this software or replaced. Who am I kidding they would probably make it a requirement for all ISP to knock you offline unless you upgrade your router...

Don’t put anything past them.


38 posted on 02/20/2009 7:10:16 AM PST by Syntyr (If its too loud your too old...)
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To: roamer_1

“If folks had any idea how easy it is to spoof a MAC addy, they would know what a silly waste of time this whole idea is-”

That wouldn’t solve the problem, would it?

If you have to log in to the ISP to get access then they still know who you are.


39 posted on 02/20/2009 7:19:10 AM PST by webstersII
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To: rabscuttle385

So if you have an unsecured wireless router because you don’t know what you’re doing, you are breaking the law.

But talk about unfunded mandates! Most wireless hotspots are simply standard store-bought wireless routers with hot-spot software in them. They cannot hold two years worth of data.

But now I see a market, a wireless router with hot spot software and a terabyte hard drive. These things already exist as media servers, so it’s just a software tweak to turn them into compliant hot spots. Still, it’s money businesses and libraries shouldn’t have to spend.


40 posted on 02/20/2009 7:27:58 AM PST by antiRepublicrat ("I am a firm believer that there are not two sides to every issue..." -- Arianna Huffington)
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