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Eight Congressional Democrats propose 0.25% transaction tax on stocks
THOMAS (Library of Congress) ^ | February 18, 2009 | reaganaut1

Posted on 02/18/2009 5:24:42 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: cdrw

I used to work for a market-making firm and agree with you.
Obviously a market-maker is not going to make a market less than 0.50% wide if there is a 0.25% one-way transaction tax.


21 posted on 02/18/2009 5:55:01 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Hubby and I talked about taking what we have left in our market portfolio out and putting it somewhere we can at least maintain our equity.

Any ideas?


22 posted on 02/18/2009 5:57:37 AM PST by not2worry (WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND)
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To: reaganaut1

Stupid Idea. Great way to motivate investors to move their funds out of the US markets and into other global markets.


23 posted on 02/18/2009 6:04:12 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: not2worry

Inflation-linked Treasury bonds (TIPS) for tax-deferred accounts and and municipal bond funds for taxable ones.


24 posted on 02/18/2009 6:05:10 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: VRWCmember

this is just more evidence that the beltway has no clue about reality in the real world.


25 posted on 02/18/2009 6:06:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: not2worry
taking what we have left in our market portfolio

Never do anything based on emotion and never do a 100% switch to or from anything. What I suggest is selling small portions (e.g. 20%) on bounces, a little more on higher bounces. Redeploy some money into fixed investments and other money into liquid cash to buy back in when the market goes down. Sooner or later there will be another stock bubble and it will be good to have some investment in it. Personally I like tech (like Intel) and commodities (BP, CHK, etc). Also have some nursing home chains and other random stuff for diversity.

26 posted on 02/18/2009 6:06:04 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: silverleaf
“Wall Street” is millions of individuals, most of them not rich.

And most of them without a clue that they are part of Wall Street. I don't know where they think the stocks in their 401(k)s are traded, but they sure don't seem to know it's on Wall Street.

27 posted on 02/18/2009 6:06:10 AM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: reaganaut1
,,,, a tax that has a negligible impact on the average investor.

I have to wonder if the same was said about Federal Income Taxes before they were passed into law.

28 posted on 02/18/2009 6:07:17 AM PST by TYVets
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To: TheWasteLand
The Democrats really want to see Dow 6000 by year end, don’t they?

Midsummer, if not sooner. All you need is five 300-point drop days like yesterday (out of 80).

29 posted on 02/18/2009 6:07:30 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: reaganaut1

While interest rates will stay low for a while (forced by the Fed), I don’t think they will stay low forever. Once they start to rise, low interest rate bonds will fall in value. IMO, we are repeating the 70’s (except worse) and bonds were not a good investment in the 70’s.


30 posted on 02/18/2009 6:08:59 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: reaganaut1
Static analysis at its worst. The volume of stock trades on US markets would plummet. You could print the Wall Street Journal's stock list on a piece of toilet paper and leave a lot of room for "other uses". Anyone with any sense would either get an offshore account or invest in mutual funds that trade only in offshore markets so the federales only get their 0.25% going in and coming out and nothing for internal trades.

PS The London, Tokyo and Hong Kong stock markets will thank you.

31 posted on 02/18/2009 6:18:12 AM PST by KarlInOhio (On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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To: reaganaut1

YEah - that will help the markets - tax transactions.

I really despise liberals.


32 posted on 02/18/2009 6:20:25 AM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: cdrw
This is a very bad, very poorly thought out idea.

Therefore will almost certainly pass and get signed by the Rat House....
33 posted on 02/18/2009 6:24:44 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
The sad thing is that a financial transaction tax is probably a good idea — as a replacement for existing taxes.

Ultimately, all taxes, regardless of what they are called, are paid by the end user. This is true of corporate taxes because corporations don't have a magic pile of money from which to draw from to pay new taxes. When forced with increased tax rates, corporations raise the cost of the goods and or services they produce, thereby passing along the additional tax to the end user. This is also true for FICA, Capital Gains, income tax, and various embedded taxes. This sort of tax on the movement of capital is just as punishing as any of the other taxes you mention. The net result will be less people investing in stocks. That punishes everyone because everyone is a consumer of something in one form or another.

34 posted on 02/18/2009 6:25:11 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem - Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: palmer
bonds were not a good investment in the 70’s.

I seem to remember a 10% FDIC insured CD that I had in the 80's. From the late 70's. Of course those guys went to jail and the S&L was sold.... but I did OK for about 10 years. I asked if there were any more of those CD's when it came due and the guy laughed and said he wished.

35 posted on 02/18/2009 6:31:00 AM PST by erman (Outside of a dog, a book is man's best companion. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
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To: erman
a 10% FDIC insured CD

I prefer the 100% insured ones :} The very late 70's (i.e. 79) and the early 80's were a good time to go fixed (CD's or bonds). We are just at the beginning of the cycle (i.e. late 60's). In 10 more years rates will shoot up, then anyone who has cash left will able to lock in at a good rate.

36 posted on 02/18/2009 6:36:53 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
An ammo tax increase would concern me.

You can be sure they're thinking of that too, and it will be a lot more than 0.25%. More like 5 cents a round, which would be a 150% tax on .22 LR, and still more than 1% on match .50 cal rounds costing just under $5 each.

37 posted on 02/18/2009 6:48:53 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: TheBattman

This proposed tax is a sure recipe to drive markets off-shore. It is a wonder any major corporation retains a state-side HQ .


38 posted on 02/18/2009 7:09:20 AM PST by Broker ( Pakikisama)
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To: reaganaut1

Dow under 7500.


39 posted on 02/18/2009 7:09:55 AM PST by Crawdad (Barack Obama hates black people.)
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To: reaganaut1

as if a 7500 DOW wasn’t bad enough...idiots.


40 posted on 02/18/2009 7:27:02 AM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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