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1 posted on 02/17/2009 8:25:37 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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Where did the idea of "millions of years" come from?"


39 posted on 02/17/2009 9:01:06 AM PST by mysterio
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The Earth, along with the rest of the solar system, is about 4 1/2 billion years old. The scientific evidence confirming this is overwhelming and irrefutable.

Conservatives who believe the Earth is “thousands” of years old give the rest of us a bad reputation for ignorance.


40 posted on 02/17/2009 9:01:19 AM PST by Signalman
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My wife and I once saw an interview with Frank Libby in which he acknowledged that carbon 14 dating objects can be affected by the absorbtion of the surrounding carbon.

The Mt St Helens eruption destroyed three widely accepted beliefs regarding the time required for the formation of certain phenomenon.

First, due to the sudden melting of snow and ice, a canyon was formed instantly that would’ve been estimated to have required thousands of years to form.

The trees that were felled into Spirit lake over time became water logged and popped up vertical. Over time as the verticle trees floated towards the shores and the sentiment in the lake settled around the trees, in effect, transplanting them and setting the stage for a petrified forest.

I believe the last phenomenon had to do with the overnight formation of what could eventually become peat beds.

In summary, Mt St Helens showed us that we didn’t know what we thought we knew.


42 posted on 02/17/2009 9:01:54 AM PST by Nephi (Like the failed promise of Fascism, masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism.)
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How do “young earth” creationists explain the existence of objects in space, such as quasars, that are located tens of billions of light years from the earth?


45 posted on 02/17/2009 9:04:12 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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SITREP


55 posted on 02/17/2009 9:21:13 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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The idea of millions of years comes from the Catholic Church, from Origen of Alexandria (185-254 AD);

Combining the Stoic doctrine of a universe without beginning with the Biblical doctrine of the beginning and the end of the world, he conceived of the visible world as the stages of an eternal cosmic process, affording also an explanation of the diversity of human fortunes, rewards, and punishments.

72 posted on 02/17/2009 9:46:43 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Ok, I am NOT an evolutionists, nor am I a creationists, in fact I usually argue against most evo ideas. I have a theory about the origin of life, the universe and everything, but that is neither here nor there. I will say that anyone who actually believes the earth is only 6,000 years old has rocks in their heads. If we hold strictly to creationism, several questions beg to be answered. 1.)Why is there no mention of Dinos in the bible? Huge animals capable of swallowing a human in one gulp would surely rate a mention. Man, and all animals were supposedly created together, so why doesn't man have a record of these huge creatures? The answer is simple, we didn't exist when they did, period. 2.)The record of man, real records, goes back more than 6,000 years. All you have to do is go back to the actual written records, which can easily be traced back to about 4,000 years ago, then look at the artifacts of Humans who lived before that, 6,000 years easily, and more. Earth may not be billions of years old, but is a damn site older than 6,000.

Creationists need to get over the idea that evolution, in some form not Darwinism(Darwin was wrong and has been proved to be to anyone not brainwashed to believe in his theory), is not incompatible with creation. Also, please quote me chapter and verse where the bible actually says that the earth is only 6,000 years old.

80 posted on 02/17/2009 10:19:59 AM PST by calex59
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I think you and I have touched upon the subject of the age of earth in our discussions, no?

When I look at “In the beginning..” I see no way to determine at time involved in the CREATION of the heavens and earth in contrast to the PREPARATION of earth for life and finally man.

The objection offered to me con this possibility is the question, “Why would the Creator let the earth set doing nothing for millions or billions of years?”

One, Our Creator does not operate on our time schedule and who is to say nothing was happening. And Two, God can take as long as He wishes, He being the maker of time.

That being the case then, why could not the earth been formless and waste for any amount of time, even billions of years before The Creator says the seven days of Genesis commence?

I think it is the crowding of one thing, creation of “the heavens and earth” into the time of preparation of the earth for man that creates a conflict between much of the thinking of you and I on the subject.

Believing that “the beginning” was a long time ago, with an exact amount of time, makes more sense to me than a very short few thousand years as it fits more easily with we can observe today.

But whatever explanation one accepts I also think it has to fit with the Scriptures.

92 posted on 02/17/2009 10:41:07 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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The fact that there is an argument proves the presence of an evil distracter. Let’s all argue over 6 thousand years or 4.5 billion years! ...and the whispering in your ear goes: focus on fighting so as to stop the symbiotic union relationship between yourself and God. The Legions win again.


94 posted on 02/17/2009 10:41:54 AM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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All I know is that people arguing evolution/creation seems like it has gone on for MILLIONS of years.

Enough already.

Show me ONE convert from one side to the other on all this! LOL

Theology class is down the hall, science class is the room across.

Deal with it.


108 posted on 02/17/2009 10:58:33 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares (Refusing to kneel before the socialist messiah. 1-20-13 Freedom Day.)
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All of our media outlets push astronomy and “round Earth” ideas on the public. Even children’s cartoons reflect astronomical philosophy! In an episode of the cartoon SpongeBob SquarePants, entitled “SpongeBob B.C.,” the narrator begins: “Ah, dawn breaks over the primordial sea. As the Earth rotates the sun rises above the horizon.” Unfortunately, large segments of the church have swallowed the round Earth astronomy hook, line, and sinker. But it was not always this way. In this chapter, we will discover where the idea of a round Earth came from and why the church went along with it. We will see that science does not require it, but rather it is a necessity of astronomy and cosmological theory...


120 posted on 02/17/2009 11:16:56 AM PST by mlo
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Evolution, Christianity, and a 4+ billion-year-old earth are perfectly compatible.


143 posted on 02/17/2009 12:12:44 PM PST by Buck W. (BHO: Selling hope, keeping the change.)
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Grrr it makes me so angry when I hear these know-it-all science types telling me what to think. I know in my gut that the sun revolves around us and not the other way round. The earth is flat. SO SHUT UP you know-it-alls. Yeah!

Yes also the earth is 6000 years old since people were there 6000 years ago to document that in cave paintings. Of course.


158 posted on 02/17/2009 1:30:36 PM PST by acliffhang3r
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Uh, Carl Sagan?

Actually, pioneer geologist Charles Lyell might be a better answer.

176 posted on 02/17/2009 2:47:07 PM PST by x
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From Satan.


177 posted on 02/17/2009 3:09:34 PM PST by ToGodBeTheGlory ("Darwinism" is Satanism.)
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If someone old enough to be reading this forum is asking that question they need to go back and repeat elementary school because they weren’t paying attention but somehow managed to graduate.


179 posted on 02/17/2009 3:34:30 PM PST by DaGman
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