[A.Hun]

So you just disregard the progress made on the border and the accompanying drop in illegal immigration?

Did Clinton do anything about the border? Would Kerry or GOre have done anything? Will Obama do anything?

You just don’t think enough was done...thats fair. But it hardly negates what was done. You realize they had to sue border towns just to get the fencing we have now done?

I always have believed that GWB used his available resources to track down Jihadists after 9/11, not chase Mexicans.

[TigersEye]

I don't disregard what he did. It was just half stepping. He could have done a lot more. And again I reject your pointing to Clinton or the "what ifs" candidates. Clinton was gone before 9/11 and the "what ifs" never happened. When it comes to national security the buck does stop with the President.

You can also credit the Minute Men, Sheriff Joe Arpaio and the economic downturn with lower apprehension rates of illegals. The BP does a good job with what they've got. They could have had a lot more without one new law or a single new budget increase. Bush simply didn't use what was already available.

[AvOrdVet]

So you just disregard the progress made on the border and the accompanying drop in illegal immigration?

The drop was mainly due to the souring economy not the lackluster border work although the few workplace raids helped a little although they were far a few...

I always have believed that GWB used his available resources to track down Jihadists after 9/11, not chase Mexicans.

How about the Hezzbolla and Hamas infiltration of the southern border as reported by the FBI and Homeland Security!... Doesn't seem like the border was that secure!