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Rumsfeld prosecution could set precedent (Hurl-worthy histrionics)
The Japan Times ^ | February 17, 2009 | Cesar Chelala, M.D., Ph.D.

Posted on 02/16/2009 5:12:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

NEW YORK — There is now enough evidence to try former U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for war crimes, Manfred Nowak, the U.N. Special Rapporteur on Torture, recently told "Frontal 21," a German television program.

Nowak's statement confirms what human rights and legal organizations have been saying for several years, and spotlights one of the Bush administration's most controversial decisions regarding the use of torture.

Nowak's statement follows a bipartisan Senate Arms Services Committee investigation made public in December. In scathing and unequivocal terms, the investigation revealed that Rumsfeld and other high-ranking administration officials, including former National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, bore major responsibility for detainee abuse by American troops at Abu Ghraib in Iraq; Guantanamo Bay, Cuba; and other military detention centers.

The abuse was not the result of only a few soldiers acting on their own, but the consequence of interrogation policies approved by Rumsfeld and other top officials who "conveyed the message that physical pressures and degradation were appropriate treatment for detainees."

On Dec. 2, 2002, following a request by Guantanamo officials that additional techniques beyond those in the U.S. Army field manual be approved for use, Rumsfeld authorized new interrogation policies for Guantanamo, including placing prisoners in "stress positions," hooding detainees for 20-hour interrogations, exploiting phobias to induce stress, sensory deprivation, and isolation. These techniques were later used in Afghanistan and Iraq. Complaints of abuses at Guantanamo by FBI officials to the Defense Department in December 2002 were disregarded.

According to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), in January of 2003 senior officers of the Judge Advocate General's office repeatedly objected to interrogation techniques used at Guantanamo, but "Pentagon officials 'didn't think this was a big deal, so they just ignored the JAGs.' "

During this period, Rumsfeld designated a "Working Group" to assess legal, policy and operational issues for detainee interrogation in the "war on terrorism." In April 2003, the Working Group issued its final report recommending 35 interrogation techniques to Rumsfeld, who recommended 24 of the 35, including dietary and environmental manipulation, sleep interruption and isolation.

One month later, the Red Cross reported 200 cases of alleged detainee abuse of prisoners in U.S. custody in Iraq to the U.S. Central Command. Meanwhile, the FBI reiterated its objections to the Guantanamo base commander.

In August 2003, Rumsfeld sent the Guantanamo commander to Iraq to "GITMO-ize" Iraqi detention facilities, promoting wide-scale deployment of more aggressive interrogation techniques in Iraq.

In February 2004, Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba reported that "systematic" and "sadistic, blatant and wanton criminal abuses" were taking place at Abu Ghraib.

In May 2006, the U.N. Committee against Torture issued a strong and thorough critique of the U.S. record on torture. The U.N. assessment was confirmed by Maj. Gen. Taguba who in June 2008 stated, "After years of disclosures by government investigations, media accounts and reports from human rights organizations, there is no longer any doubt as to whether the current administration has committed war crimes," and called for those responsible to be held to account.

In December 2006, the ACLU and Human Rights First argued before a federal court that Rumsfeld should be held accountable for the torture and abuse of detainees in U.S. military custody. Retired military officers and military legal experts filed a legal brief in support of the lawsuit. In March 2007, Chief Judge Thomas A. Hogan of the Federal District Court for the District of Columbia dismissed the case.

The Center for Constitutional Rights in New York, the International Federation for Human Rights, and the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights have filed three cases against Rumsfeld and others in Germany and France for the alleged torture of detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo and at secret sites. They did so under universal jurisdiction laws that would let those countries indict U.S. officials for torture if the United States does not fulfill its obligation.

How the Obama administration handles this issue will signal its degree of commitment to the human rights principles it has promised to uphold.

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Cesar Chelala, M.D. and Ph.D., is a cowinner of the Overseas Press Club of America award for an article on human rights.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agenda; bush; democrats; donaldrumsfeld; guantanamo; iraq; obama; wot
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To: BenLurkin

If another country wants to try American leaders, then I vote we drop a thermal-nuclear calling card in their lap.
that is always my first reaction!
Is it possible to hate people more than i hate the rats??


21 posted on 02/16/2009 5:33:10 PM PST by genghis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Becoming a 3rd world tin pot dictatorship is not a precedent, it has been done before.

We have seen where rampant politicized prosecutions of the losing party have led democracies, and it was towards systems where electoral ‘decisions’ are more predictable.

22 posted on 02/16/2009 5:33:32 PM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is now enough evidence to try former U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for war crimes,...

You can always count on a Commie lib to start off their rant with a lie presented as a fact. It's a technique I've been working on myself since it works so well for the Commies.

23 posted on 02/16/2009 5:33:44 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Have You Punched A Democrat Today? - Do it for the children.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If we apply the same degradation test to the IRS we can jail the entire audit department of the IRS.


24 posted on 02/16/2009 5:35:58 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Apparently this libtard doesn’t realize he’s striking sparks in a shack filled with dynamite.


25 posted on 02/16/2009 5:37:17 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: randomhero97

Perhaps it would prompt us to do what we need to do.


26 posted on 02/16/2009 5:37:55 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Taguba: NO DIRECT ORDER GIVEN FOR ABUSE 6-10-04
Senators hear conflicting testimony on who was in charge

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The U.S. Army general in charge of the investigation into abuse of some Iraqi prisoners told a Senate committee hearing Tuesday that “a failure of leadership” was to blame for the situation, and said there was no evidence the soldiers involved were acting under orders.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/11/politics.abuse.main/index.html

27 posted on 02/16/2009 5:48:09 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Enemy propaganda.


28 posted on 02/16/2009 5:58:17 PM PST by roses of sharon (Pray Hussein fails!)
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To: ChicagahAl

Fidel Castro has been sucking up to Hollywood for years and it’s paid him dividens. As for Mugabe, British Intelligence is too weak to simply put a bullet in his brain and make it look like an inside job.

The rest are easy enough, we just need to find the right trigger, the little crack in their arsenal.


29 posted on 02/16/2009 6:14:42 PM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: randomhero97

If Rummy needs protectionm he can rely on all of us.

It would be too hilarious if all the army personnel were driven out of the country and we could have a solid stage from whence to retake the country, possibly through conquest.

Then we all rise up to help out and drive those bastards from the White House. After trying and executing them for high treason we would have top perform an exorcism to clean the demons out.


30 posted on 02/16/2009 6:18:42 PM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And people want to hide their firearms....no, I think it’s time to load them up.


31 posted on 02/16/2009 6:46:53 PM PST by JamesA (He who hesitates is lost.)
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To: Obadiah

The hour is late and things are going to go south with increasing speed.

Their speed better be faster than 2000 fps when they get this far South!


32 posted on 02/16/2009 7:18:50 PM PST by dusttoyou (HNIC)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cesar Chelala is nothing but a cow-whiner of the Overseas Press Club. Would that the criminals in the media be indicted for treason and attempted genocide - including the attempt at causing hundreds of thousands of deaths in Iraq through agitating to make the U. S. prematurely leave.

Rumsfeld’s reaction to this is surely to find it sadly ludicrous. Rumsfeld doesn't need Obama for protection. But if Obama were to accede in anyway to this madness, it would end badly for Obama.

33 posted on 02/16/2009 8:08:01 PM PST by mtntop3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rumsfeld is not guilty period. He did what all Secretary of Defense must do....go to war with the army you have and treat prisoners by the Geneva Convention....he had done precisely that.


34 posted on 02/16/2009 8:27:00 PM PST by yoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Man, oh man, those hearings will be interesting to watch, because Rumsfeld will be free to say all those things he didn’t feel free to say while he was DoD.


35 posted on 02/16/2009 8:47:32 PM PST by SuziQ
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