Posted on 02/16/2009 9:46:54 AM PST by paltz
Jerusalem --- February 16, 2009...... Responding to UK MP Lord Nazir Ahmed threats to mobilize 10,000 Jihadists against the English Parliament and Ahmed's calls to arrest British Jews, both Jewish and Christian activists have created a Facebook group demanding that Ahmed is removed from the House of Lords.
The Remove Lord Ahmed From The UK House of Lords - Preserve Democracy Facebook group states: "Lord Nazir Ahmed, who was born in Mirpur (Azad Kashmir, Pakistan) has been a UK Labour Party life member since 1998. He was the first Muslim to have been so honoured. Nazir Ahmed’s behaviour matters, both in the message it sends to his fellow Muslims and in what it represents to the rest of us.
On 25 July 2005 Lord Ahmed, while interviewing with Robert Siegel on National Public Radio said that the suicide bombers of 7/7 had an "identity crisis" and, that "unfortunately, our imams and mosques have not been able to communicate the true message of Islam in the language that these young people can understand."
Christopher Orlet of The American Spectator did not agree with Lord Ahmed's "identity crisis." He said, "That's not an identity crisis, Lord Ahmed, that's religious psychopathy. That's a bloodthirstiness that makes Dracula look like a teetotaler."
Any person, however ennobled, who threatens to bring a horde of 10,000 Muslims upon Parliament in order to stifle debate and bully it into submission is no ‘moderate’.
By threatening this, Lord Ahmed has shown himself to be one of the very extremists he purports to eschew, committed to the same ideology as those who seek to impose Shari’a law upon the UK and subjugate the kuffar to the will of Allah. He is of the very mindset of those imams imported from Pakistan who poison the minds of Britain’s Muslim youth and distort the teachings of the Qur’an for their own warped ends.
Ahmed is an arrogant bully, manifestly used to getting his own way, and he lords it over their Lordships to the extent that his religio-political adherence exhorts him to do so.
Lord Ahmed is guilty of treason.
"If any person whatsoever shall, within the United Kingdom... order to put any force or constraint upon or in order to intimidate or overawe both Houses or either House of Parliament... and such compassings, imaginations, inventions, devices, or intentions, or any of them, shall express, utter, or declare, by publishing any printing or writing... or by any overt act or deed, every person so offending shall be guilty of felony, and being convicted thereof shall be liable...to be transported beyond the seas for the term or his or her natural life."
Lord Ahmed, has not only taken aim at Salmon Rushdie and Dutch MP Geert Wilders for exposing global Islamic Jihad but is openly advocating the arrest of British Jews who support Israel.
Lastly, Ahmed is an apparent murderer.
Ahmed struck 20-year-old Martin Goober on Christmas Day 2007 near the Thorpe Hesley turn-off the M1 in South Yorkshire.
Sheffield Magistrates' Court heard that his use of the phone over 17 miles amounted to a prolonged period of dangerous driving.
Justice Secretary Jack Straw has pledged to bring in new laws allowing peers to be expelled from the House of Lords if they break the law or commit serious breaches of parliamentary rules. Ahmed will be back in criminal court on 25 February.
Lord Ahmed represents Sharia law, not English law.
He is a direct and immediate threat to democracy and freedom in the UK. He must be removed from Parliament.
Please forward this Facebook room to your family, friends and the media."
"Lord Nazir Ahmed entered into the UK House of Lords in the same manner that the Trojan Horse had entered into the city of Troy," says Facebook group co-creator Monique Lester.
"Islamic Jihad is performed in a variety of ways. Lord Ahmed arrived at Parliament by the appointment of Tony Blair. He came holding flowers and handing out sweets appearing as a "moderate Muslim." Today, his true colours are showing. Ahmed's sense of 'free speech' is perverted. He allows Swedish-domiciled anti-Semite Jöran Jermas to speak filth about the Jews but when one wants to discuss Islamic terrorism he is ready to use violence to make sure that it is not heard. To threaten Parliament with over 10,000 Islamic protesters to stifle free speech on the subjects of the 9/11 and 7/7 London bombing terror attacks is a serious and treasonous offense."
Hamas supporting Ahmed was responding to a member of the England House of Lords to invite colleagues to a private meeting in a conference room in the House of Lords to meet the Dutch politician Geert Wilders. Wilders is an elected member of the Dutch parliament who was invited to screen his anti-terrorism movie Fitna.
Wilders branded the British Government “the biggest bunch of cowards in Europe” after he flew in to Heathrow and was promptly put on the first plane back.
"I am going to Great Britain because I was invited by another politician [the UKIP peer Lord Pearson of Rannoch]. I am a democrat. I am serving freedom of speech. They are not only being nasty to me, they are being nasty to freedom of speech. They are more Chamberlain than Churchill," said Wilders.
The MP had been invited to attend a showing of his 17-minute film at the House of Lords by Lord Pearson. The film features verses from the Koran with images of terrorist attacks in New York, London and Madrid, and calls on Muslims to remove “hate-preaching” verses from the text. Lord Pearson said that the screening would go ahead regardless.
The decision to refuse Wilders entry provoked Maxime Verhagen, the Dutch Foreign Minister, to call David Miliband, the UK Foreign Secretary, to protest against the decision. “The fact that a Dutch parliamentarian is refused entry to another EU country is highly regrettable,” Mr Verhagen said.
"Ahmed's actions have transcended his acts of spitting on Salmon Rushdie and Dutch MP Geert Wilders, says UK resident Lester. "He is now inciting hatred and violence against the Jews of Britain. In his racial discrimination, he is calling the government to arrest those Jews who have helped to defend the state of Israel. The Jews of Israel have been the innocent victims of Islamic Jihad and Hamas in Gaza who have slammed Israel cities and towns with over 8,000 missiles. Hamas attacked Israel even though it left Gaza in a unilateral peace move three years ago. And now that the Israel Defense Forces have lifted up their hand to defend their civilian populations from terror attacks, Ahmed calls this basic and rational means of self-defense as 'criminal acts.' The global and British Jewish and Christian communities will not tolerate Ahmed's acts of incitement. Ahmed should be well aware that the Jews of 2009 are not the same Jews who quietly walked into gas chambers in the 1940's. The man deserves to be arrested and expelled from Parliament."
Lord Ahmed was considered to be a “moderate” Muslim. The Pakistan born Nazir Ahmed became the United Kingdom’s first Muslim life peer in 1998. He is a member of the Labour Party and was appointed to the Lords by Tony Blair. Lord Ahmed took his oath on the Koran. He led one of the first delegations on behalf of the British Government on the Muslim pilgrimage of the Hajj, to Saudi Arabia. In February 2005, Lord Ahmed hosted an inciteful, hate smitten book launch in the House of Lords for anti-Zionist author Israel Shamir. In 2007, he responded to the award of a knighthood to Salman Rushdie by stating that he was appalled, saying that Rushdie had “blood on his hands.”
The Times states: "Again and again we are told that Islam is a religion of peace and equality; how does that tally with some of what the Koran says?
What makes such anxieties really toxic is the feeling that they are suppressed and ignored by our government. Critics of Islam, however reasonable, know they are likely to fall foul of the many new Labour laws against freedom of expression, in particular against incitement to religious hatred, which was enacted under Muslim pressure.
Yet despite these laws, which silence critics of Islam, Muslims are allowed to teach views that are illegal in public mosques. The awkward truth is that certain teachings in the Koran are against the law in this country – teachings about homosexuality and the position of women, for example. In some places the Koran and some other Muslim teachings are sexist, homophobic and likely to incite religious hatred.
The Telegraph states: "Geert Wilders may be obnoxious, but he was elected; Lord Ahmed was not. Lord Ahmed claims that Wilders is guilty of incitement. He isn't. Being obnoxious is not a criminal offence. To find someone guilty of incitement, you need to show that they, you know, incited someone. Some of the preachers that Wilders excoriates are guilty of incitement in this sense, but this never seems to impede their entry and re-entry into the UK. No doubt in future all members of the Saudi Arabia ruling class will be denied entry, too. They do not call for the banning of the Bible and outlawing of Christian worship in their kingdom - they have done it. "
Melanie Phillips of the Spectator says: "So let’s get this straight. The British government allows people to march through British streets screaming support for Hamas, it allows Hizb ut Tahrir to recruit on campus for the jihad against Britain and the west, it takes no action against a Muslim peer who threatens mass intimidation of Parliament, but it bans from the country a member of parliament of a European democracy who wishes to address the British Parliament on the threat to life and liberty in the west from religious fascism.
It is he, not them, who is considered a ‘serious threat to one of the fundamental interests of society’. Why? Because the result of this stand for life and liberty against those who would destroy them might be an attack by violent thugs. The response is not to face down such a threat of violence but to capitulate to it instead.
Wilders is a controversial politician, to be sure. But this is another fateful and defining issue for Britain’s governing class as it continues to sleepwalk into cultural suicide. If British MPs do not raise hell about this banning order, if they go along with this spinelessness, if they fail to stand up for the principle that the British Parliament of all places must be free to hear what a fellow democratically elected politician has to say about one of the most difficult and urgent issues of our time, if they fail to hold the line against the threat of violence but capitulate to it instead, they will be signaling that Britain is no longer the cradle of freedom and democracy but its graveyard."
The Independent in an editorial says: "Joan Smith: Free speech has to be for all, Home Secretary. Let's start by getting a couple of things clear: Jacqui Smith is an idiot for banning Geert Wilders, and even more of an idiot to do it after the Government was lobbied to ban him by Lord Ahmed. The Home Secretary's argument for refusing to admit Mr Wilders again (he was here in December) is feeble; the only way his presence might threaten public security is if there was an intemperate reaction by people who don't like his views. Demands for a ban are based on the same perverse reasoning that led to Salman Rushdie's being accused of having "blood on his hands" – by Lord Ahmed – because some idiots chose to respond violently to his novel The Satanic Verses. According to this sophistry, it isn't someone's fault if he loses his temper and hits me; it's mine for upsetting him in the first place. It's got so bad that when Channel 4's documentary Undercover Mosque showed imams preaching hate in British mosques, the Crown Prosecution Service and the West Midlands Police began investigating the film-makers, coming to their senses only when they found themselves on the wrong end of a libel action. I don't like Mr Wilders' politics, but he doesn't advocate killing people, unlike Sheikh Qaradawi, who was allowed into this country until someone belatedly noticed that he supports suicide-bombing."
Stephen Pollard of the Jewish Chronicle writes: "On February 23, Lord Ahmed hosted a book launch in the House of Lords for a man going by the name of Israel Shamir. “Israel Shamir” is, in fact, a Swedish-domiciled anti-Semite also known as Jöran Jermas. The gist of Shamir - Jermas’s speech at the meeting can be gleaned from its title, “Jews and the Empire”. It included observations such as: “All the [political] parties are Zionist-infiltrated.” “Your newspapers belong to Zionists . . . Jews indeed own, control and edit a big share of mass media, this mainstay of Imperial thinking.” “In the Middle East we have just one reason for wars, terror and trouble — and that is Jewish supremacy drive"
Why would Lord Ahmed have hosted such a man in the Lords, asks Pollard?
Ahmed did nothing to dissociate himself from Shamir and to this day must, we assume, be proud of having issues his invitation.
So that gives us a pretty good idea of what he considers acceptable. There were no meetings with whips or leaders. There were no demonstrations. The meeting was not cancelled.
I think it's pretty clear where we Jews and Christians stand with Lord Ahmed now.
Clearly Lord Ahmed is selective about the types of free speech he chooses to condemn."
Great Britain, famous for appeasing Adolph Hitler a half century ago, is appeasing today all those who seek to replace English law with Islamic Sharia law.
"We will not allow a second Holocaust to materialize," says Lester. "We will not allow history to repeat itself. We will not allow Lord Ahmed to spit on the greatness of British law, freedom and democracy."
Instead of a Facebook group, how about a large group of armed Brits marching upon this pigs home and office.
I will self censor myself for the remaining actions needed for England's survival.
what will the Brits use? Pitchforks?
This may be the last chance for England to save England.
Good point. I guess if that is all you have, then use it.
I would also suggest torches to go with the pitchforks.
Lord Nazir Ahmed, who was born in Mirpur (Azad Kashmir, Pakistan) has been a UK Labour Party life member since 1998. He was the first Muslim to have been so honoured. Nazir Ahmed’s behaviour matters, both in the message it sends to his fellow Muslims and in what it represents to the rest of us.
On 25 July 2005 Lord Ahmed, while interviewing with Robert Siegel on National Public Radio said that the suicide bombers of 7/7 had an “identity crisis” and, that “unfortunately, our imams and mosques have not been able to communicate the true message of Islam in the language that these young people can understand.”
Christopher Orlet of The American Spectator did not agree with Lord Ahmed’s “identity crisis.” He said, “That’s not an identity crisis, Lord Ahmed, that’s religious psychopathy. That’s a bloodthirstiness that makes Dracula look like a teetotaler.”
Any person, however ennobled, who threatens to bring a horde of 10,000 Muslims upon Parliament in order to stifle debate and bully it into submission is no ‘moderate’. By threatening this, Lord Ahmed has shown himself to be one of the very extremists he purports to eschew, committed to the same ideology as those who seek to impose Shari’a law upon the UK and subjugate the kuffar to the will of Allah. He is of the very mindset of those imams imported from Pakistan who poison the minds of Britain’s Muslim youth and distort the teachings of the Qur’an for their own warped ends.
Ahmed is an arrogant bully, manifestly used to getting his own way, and he lords it over their Lordships to the extent that his religio-political adherence exhorts him to do so.
Lord Ahmed is quilty of treason.
“If any person whatsoever shall, within the United Kingdom... order to put any force or constraint upon or in order to intimidate or overawe both Houses or either House of Parliament... and such compassings, imaginations, inventions, devices, or intentions, or any of them, shall express, utter, or declare, by publishing any printing or writing... or by any overt act or deed, every person so offending shall be guilty of felony, and being convicted thereof shall be liable...to be transported beyond the seas for the term or his or her natural life.”
Lord Ahmed, has not only taken aim at Salmon Rushdie and Dutch MP Geert Wilders for exposing global Islamic Jihad but is openly advocating the arrest of British Jews who support Israel.
Lastly, Ahmed is an apparent murderer.
Ahmed struck 20-year-old Martin Goober on Christmas Day 2007 near the Thorpe Hesley turn-off the M1 in South Yorkshire.
Sheffield Magistrates’ Court heard that his use of the phone over 17 miles amounted to a prolonged period of dangerous driving.
Justice Secretary Jack Straw has pledged to bring in new laws allowing peers to be expelled from the House of Lords if they break the law or commit serious breaches of parliamentary rules. Ahmed will be back in criminal court on 25 February.
Lord Ahmed represents Sharia law, not English law.
He is a direct and immediate threat to democracy and freedom in the UK. He must be removed from Parliament.
This is the FaceBook group write up.
Wait for long range — longbows
The Brits have become sheep. They will do nothing.
Use the pitchfork to get a gun.
I still think they should use longbows to begin with
The Brits know what to do. When the time comes, I’m sure they’ll do what is necessary.
IIRC, he was appointed to the role by the former PM, Tony Blair...
Didn’t the recurve bow trump the long bow?
Facebook group? What a joke! This guy has already won. His threats kept the unwanted Dutchman out of the country while on any muslim street corner in London, you can hear preaching for the violent overthrow of the British government.
Ping. Jews and Christians, both American and British, must pray for British Jews, and that the Parliament responds appropriately to a treasonous threat.
Most of the longbows had an accurate range against group targets of 400 - 450 yards. Against individual targets out to 250 -300 yards. But the recurve bow is very good in its own right. The recurve was designed for horse mounted archers.
It is he, not them, who is considered a ‘serious threat to one of the fundamental interests of society’. Why? Because the result of this stand for life and liberty against those who would destroy them might be an attack by violent thugs. The response is not to face down such a threat of violence but to capitulate to it instead.
I would rank Ms. Phillips as a likely candidate for (a) arrest (b) censure and/or (c) having her throat slit open.
Appointed? I thought you had to be a blue blood.
The time came when the government ordered them to turn in their guns.
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