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Twilight Zone at U.S.-Mexico border
Miami Herald ^ | 02/15/2009 | Tom Miller

Posted on 02/15/2009 3:06:05 PM PST by IbJensen

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''Don't feed the Mexicans.''

Or the border rats.

1 posted on 02/15/2009 3:06:05 PM PST by IbJensen
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Ping!


2 posted on 02/15/2009 3:08:39 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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"Then there's that ugly wall scarring our beautiful borderland, whose repulsiveness will surely outlast its short-term effectiveness."

Sorry pendejo, it's not "your borderland," it's the border of OUR COUNTRY.

3 posted on 02/15/2009 3:10:41 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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"Now, from Brownsville and Matamoros on the Gulf of Mexico to San Diego and Tijuana on the Pacific coast, shopkeepers on the U.S. side see only a trickle of Mexican customers."

Bullsh*t! I cross the border about 3 times a week through the San Ysidro crossing. Typically, there is anything from a 45 minutes to a 2 hour delay to cross the border, unless you have a SENTRI pass, when the delay can be up to 30 mins.

Right now there are 21 lanes open, northbound, plus 3 SENTRI lanes, and there is a 50 minute delay. That translates to approx 400 cars, in line right now and that has been steady all day.

I agree that border towns are a mess right now, including Tijuana, but the contention that Mexican customer are trickling across, is tripe.

4 posted on 02/15/2009 3:18:01 PM PST by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to the one place in the ME with no oil - Golda Meir)
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To: IbJensen

Too funny,
“’’Don’t feed the Mexicans.’’”.
But allow them to invade your country and use your medical and schooling and welfare programs?


5 posted on 02/15/2009 3:22:37 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: IbJensen
Since that act of joyful anarchy, I've traveled the entire length of the frontier numerous times, dined and slept in just about every border town on both sides and chatted with folks of high and low life throughout.

Anarchists are border rats too.

6 posted on 02/15/2009 3:24:54 PM PST by TADSLOS
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“As if to reinforce what lies south of the border, a U.S. Forest Service sign north of the line cautions visitors: ‘’Smuggling and illegal immigration may be encountered in this area.’’ “


I can take you to that sign. Problem is, it’s not near the border or your “borderlands”. Its located 80 miles north. A few miles further west you can watch a constant flow of drug runners and illegals filtering up the road to Red Rock. Last time I camped out there it looked like the Ho Chi Minh trail at night.


7 posted on 02/15/2009 3:26:09 PM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima county- Home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: IbJensen
Typical leftist drivel.

The border was once such a nice place. Then the US selfishly began to try to defend herself in an ugly way against the depredations of her enemies and ruined it all.

It's okay for us to be attacked. It's not okay for us to try to defend ourselves. Let me guess for whom this author voted in November ....

8 posted on 02/15/2009 3:35:43 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: IbJensen

Good post. Good article. I spend a good deal of time at the border in Laredo. I would concur that cross border shopping has decreased dramatically on the US side, and is virtually non-existent on the Nuevo Laredo side.

I think we’d do well to understand that Mexican immigrants generally fall some where between to polar extremes.

We have the characterization of the welfare, food stamp, healthcare, criminal gang leading Mexican. (I call them Mexifornians)

Then we have the guy that swam a river and walked a desert to ask for the chance to finish concrete on your jobsite and refuses even minor medical treatment out of fear of deportation. (I call them Texicans)

I think that the State policies of California coddle illegals with entitlement - therefore they get most of those looking for Government handouts. Here in Texas we don’t extend such liberal benefits to illegals (or anyone for that matter) so we get many more of those looking for honest work.

While we can’t endorse illegal entry or try another amnesty program. We would do well to try to tailor our immigration policy to favor allowing a greater number of “Texicans” while trying mightily to screen out “Mexifornians.”


9 posted on 02/15/2009 3:43:06 PM PST by crescen7 (game on)
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I grew up in El Paso long ago and remember a time when lunch and a Carta Blanca or two in Juarez and Zaragosa was an enjoyable thing to do. It wasn’t uncommon to take our dates over there. There really was a “border rat” culture like the author describes. Those days are long gone. The dangerous anarchy on the Mexican side, and the corruption and bitterness brought about by the brazen illegal infiltration of this country (and our own governments willful neglect of the problem) have ended the time when there was anything enjoyable about our border with Mexico.


10 posted on 02/15/2009 3:46:34 PM PST by VR-21
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VR-21,

Which side of town did you grow up on? I grew up i the Northeast. Right by WBAMC. Just north of Dyer.

We used to go to Juarez all the time. Shoot I could get a really good steak dinner for dinner with a drink for 100 pesos or about 4 bucks at that time. Pick up my grandfathers $70 perscription for $5.00.

I moved away 14 years ago but Mom and Sis still live there. We don't go across the border any more. My sister used to show dogs in Juarez, and Mexico City. We know people who have had to close up there shops over there as well. One set of friends lost their son in a shooting. He was a good kid. He was working at the family store and was shot one day in broad daylight. There were some narco thugs in front of the store.

Sad... Juarez used to be a nice place. The worst thing about Juarez was the beggars on the bridges.

11 posted on 02/15/2009 4:24:58 PM PST by Syntyr (If its too loud your too old...)
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I left El Paso 8 years ago but I still miss the desert. Not being a native I was surprised at first the way people live in a bi-cultural environment. Actually it was a separate environment all together. It was sort of cool the way kids from Paloma, Mexico commuted to school in Columbus and Deming NM, and the way firefighters from both countries helped each other. It was that way for a long, long time but no more. Kinda sad. I lived for awhile on Ambassador near Kenworthy then moved to the Westside.


12 posted on 02/15/2009 4:39:46 PM PST by csmusaret (You can't spell Democrat without R-A-T.)
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To: Syntyr
Greetings Syntyr, I grew up in East El Paso. I was born at William Beaumont in 1951 (I think some of those old wooden buildings are still there near the Medical Center). I lived as a young child in Ranchland Hills, and 10 moved across Gateway Blvd. (later to become I-10) to Eastwood Knolls. I graduated from Eastwood High School in 1969. I left shortly after to go into the service, and have never lived there since. I still have some family there and occasionally visit.

From your description of where you lived, I place you somewhere at the foot of Sugarloaf.

13 posted on 02/15/2009 4:58:15 PM PST by VR-21
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"Then there's that ugly wall scarring our beautiful borderland, whose repulsiveness will surely outlast its short-term effectiveness." Sorry pendejo, it's not "your borderland," it's the border of OUR COUNTRY. -------- Thank you. I enjoyed your sentiments so much, I have re-posted them here in there entirety, deservedly so.
14 posted on 02/15/2009 5:00:17 PM PST by txnuke (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: VR-21

Sororities and fraternities at the University of Arizona would charter buses and drive down to Nogales to walk across the border to party and drink in Mexico not so long ago.

Pretty much everyone who lives on or near the border crossed daily or at least on a regular basis. Now you feel as if you are taking your life into your hands. It’s not worth it for a dozen fresh tortillas and cheap booze!


15 posted on 02/15/2009 5:14:14 PM PST by GatorGirl (Proud member of the Gator Nation!)
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I've been wanting to tell this story. Will try and make a long story short.

About 10 years ago I was doing a sunrise photo shoot next to the Coronado Bridge. It was a day time open parking lot so I was in the open with about $25,000 worth of equipment by myself (stupid, I know.

I was ready for the sunrise and I saw about 100-200 people coming out of the dark running toward me. They didn't want me or care about me. They were were all running towards open train cars.

I s l o w l y started walking up the bridge ramp to get the hell out of there. I didn't dare put a camera up to my eye thinking there could be a shot at me from more than a camera.

Scared as could be I got out of there. Heck, that was ten years ago. It must be even worse today.

I have often wondered why those train cars were open just for them. Guess it is a way for the railroads to try and help San Diego get them out of town.

16 posted on 02/15/2009 5:20:37 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama is not my president until we see his birth certificate. A real one.)
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Really good article.


17 posted on 02/15/2009 5:30:10 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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I think some of those old wooden buildings are still there near the Medical Center

They were still in use back in '93 when I did my hospital rotation there.

18 posted on 02/15/2009 5:41:59 PM PST by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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When I was in high school, friends and I would walk over the Santa Fe St. bridge from El Paso to Juarez and go a long way into the backstreets of Juarez where gringo punks like us were seldom seen. We’d visit cantinas and drink beer and play pool with the local Mexicans. Everyone was cordial and friendly and never a thought of any danger. They ordered food for us (usually those wonderful picadillo tamales wrapped in corn husks) and we bought rounds. There were jukeboxes full of that Mexican music with blaring trumpets and the older Mexican ladies had great fun dancing us around. It’s a good memory. Yea, those days are definitely gone, and so is that world.


19 posted on 02/15/2009 5:42:33 PM PST by VR-21
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Don’t you think it’s past time our government calls the situation in and coming from Mexico what it is???

Official United States Government Definition of Terrorism

“[An] act of terrorism, means any activity that (A) involves a violent act or an act dangerous to human life that is a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State; and (B) appears to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by assassination or kidnapping.”

(United States Code Congressional and Administrative News, 98th Congress, Second Session, 1984, Oct. 19, volume 2; par. 3077, 98 STAT. 2707 [West Publishing Co., 1984])


20 posted on 02/15/2009 5:47:09 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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