“Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
Posted on 02/15/2009 12:18:31 PM PST by nuconvert
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“Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
And no, I'm not a tin-foil hat wearer ... /laughs
As a father, I benevolently dictate how my sons and daughters will act .. what they can do ... what they cannot do.
This article and what you have said are frightening.
Jim Jones comes to mind.
Yes, the 'Nanny State', as it were
‘We will not be bludgeoned into submission; we will be seduced’
Excellent and scary read.
This excellent article should be distributed far and wide. We have the gift of the internet for such a time as this...and while we have it, we should use it to help fight this war against the smothering tyranny of the Nanny State and its hatred of liberty.
No one loss of freedom seems bad, till it happens to you. A liberal relative of mine was upset one weekend because her sonny boy would have to spend money to go digital with his T.V., and because she might not be able to buy compact fluorescent light bulbs for all her fixtures. "I thought this was supposed to be a free country!" For decades this woman has watched the evening news, nodding her head, and saying people "shouldn't be allowed to do this," or "should be forced to do that." She has voted in every election to curtail the freedom of others. But only when her freedoms are curtailed (on very minor matters) does she discover the idea of freedom.
I could laugh more easily if I hadn't lost a third of my net worth in a stock market crash caused by government meddling in the housing and banking markets.
Government controls education. Many parents are estranged from their children because of the liberal indoctrination that is provided from K through 16.
Medical care may already be controlled more than most realize, and it is only going to get worse. You may be forced to take the statins, or some other junk medicine, that kills you (thereby reducing society's medical costs, and freeing up your assets for others).
When some of us shiver in winter, complain about the high cost of gasoline after the next major uptick, or suffer brownouts in summer, remember, this was a choice of our own making. The energy industry can give us cheap and plentiful heat in winter, gasoline for our cars, and dependable electricity and cooling in the summer. They only need to be freed.
A soft but very real tyranny has already arrived, though it can get far worse.
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The nanny state is desirable to 2 distinct groups.
1 - those who are incapable or unwilling to support themselves
2 - those who view themselves as the nannies
or, to put it more succintly
1 - perpetual babies
2 - nannies
These 2 groups must be left alone to mess with each other. They must not, however, be allowed to relate to adults.
The freedoms outlined in the Constitution are exclusively for those who claim them as necessary for self reliance. We must, therefor, demand and require that the nanny state be restricted to those who seek its authority.
Secession may be our only option.
>>>This excellent article should be distributed far and wide. We have the gift of the internet for such a time as this...and while we have it, we should use it to help fight this war against the smothering tyranny of the Nanny State and its hatred of liberty.<<<
Which I plan on doing this afternoon. Ask 10 friends to send it to 10 friends... and tell them that their wish will come true if they do it within the next 15 minutes!!! LOL
Seriously, though, I think this guy had hit the nail on the head. In Ledeen’s scenario, we’ll still have our guns and Rush and the church down the street. Ever try to fight a guy in a cubicle several thousand miles away? Or a line on the phone bill? Or a tiny law inserted into a little bill that just calls for you to do one small thing, not much, really, that slowly erodes your liberty?
I remember this class on Rome in which the prof told us that the first thing Augustus did upon becoming emperor was to restore the Republic - both a symbolic and meaningless act, since a republic isn’t ruled by a monarch, and the monarch could do what he wanted without regard to rule of law.
I often think about Obama the same way. The struggle for African-Americans to achieve liberty is, ironically, reaching its fruition at the same time that liberty has become meaningless in American society. If that’s not a sad thought, nothing is.
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It has happened already.
A lot of FReepers are guilty of this too, unaware that by enacting ex post facto curtailments of others' liberties, even of the lowest and least defensible such as registered sex offenders, without due process of law, they're curtailing their own freedoms down the road.
An example posted in another thread is of the "licensed gun owner" (um, hello...?) who under some federal bill will have to report his change of address within 60 days of moving. It will not be long before (for "public safety" reasons) he has to report his move 10 to 14 days in advance, similar to this and other states' laws for registered sex offenders, enacted ex post facto and upheld by the courts for "public safety" reasons.
As you do it to the worst of these, you do it to yourself. Enjoy the result.
This was posted last month, but if you haven’t yet read it, it is an excellent read!
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