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To: AuntB
For one, in So. Oregon they discovered several years ago and broke up.

What was different that they broke these guys up but not the other 34?

36 posted on 02/15/2009 9:17:10 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (What's Obama's Secret?)
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To: Right Wing Assault

“What was different that they broke these guys up but not the other 34?”

Good question. One of the leaders of the group was a blatant terrorist outside the country and it was early on after 9/11. Other than that I don’t know.

Here is a bit:

WASHINGTON – Oussama Abdullah Kassir, a/k/a “Abu Abdullah,” a/k/a “Abu Khadija,” an individual who is charged in the Southern District of New York with, among other things, conspiring to provide material support and resources to al Qaeda, has been extradited from the Czech Republic. The charges relate to his participation in an effort to establish a jihad training camp in Bly, Oregon, and his operation of several terrorist websites. Kassir was taken into FBI custody this morning in Prague.

Kassir conspired with Mustafa Kamel Mustafa, a/k/a “Abu Hamza” (hereafter “Abu Hamza”) and Haroon Rashid Aswat, and others, to establish a jihad training camp on a parcel of property located in Bly, Ore. As it was used by the conspirators in this case, the term “jihad” meant defending Islam against its enemies through violence and armed aggression, including killing the enemies of Islam, if necessary, in order to expel non-believers from holy Muslim lands.

The purpose of the Bly jihad training camp was to provide a place where Muslims could receive various types of training, including military-style jihad training, in preparation for a community of Muslims to move to Afghanistan. Once in Afghanistan, the men in the community would have gained enough familiarity with weapons at the Bly jihad training camp to fight jihad or to continue with additional jihad training in Afghanistan. In a letter faxed from one of the co-conspirators to another, the property in Bly was described as located in a “pro-militia and fire-arms state” that “looks just like Afghanistan,” and the author stated that the group was “stock-piling weapons and ammunition.”

In late 1999, Abu Hamza asked Kassir and Aswat to travel from London, England, to Bly, Ore., to assist with establishing the jihad training camp. Prior to their departure, Abu Hamza gave Kassir and Aswat approximately £4,000 to pay for expenses incurred while establishing the jihad training camp. Thereafter, on Nov. 26, 1999, Kassir and Aswat arrived at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York, after which they traveled to Seattle, Wash. and then to Bly, Ore.

In Bly, Kassir complained to a witness that there were only a few men available to train at the jihad training camp. Kassir also told witnesses that he supported Usama Bin Laden and al Qaeda, and that he had previously undertaken jihad training in Afghanistan, Kashmir, and Lebanon. A witness also saw Kassir in possession of a compact disc that contained instructions on how to make bombs and poisons.

[snip]http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2007/September/07_nsd_760.html


37 posted on 02/15/2009 9:25:20 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Right Wing Assault

“What was different that they broke these guys up but not the other 34?”

We’ve got some no-nonsense folks in Southern OR. I gather they have a strong militia group still. And you can’t ask to join. They keep an eye out & if they like what they see, they ask you to join.


40 posted on 02/15/2009 9:29:14 AM PST by Twotone
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