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Daytona 500 LIVE THREAD ~ Sunday 2-15-09 Coverage begins on FOX at 2:00pm/et
Various | 2-14-09 | Me, Jack, Junior & Rocky

Posted on 02/14/2009 3:02:16 PM PST by WestCoastGal

DAYTONA 500 LIVE THREAD


Actor Tom Cruise will drive the Chevrolet Camaro pace car at the start of Sunday’s Daytona 500.



Florida Gov. Charlie Crist has been named grand marshal for the 51st running of the Daytona 500. Keith Urban is set to perform a pre-race concert.
Julianne Hough will perform the National Anthem





Daytona International Speedway - Daytona Beach, FL. START YOUR ENGINES AT @3:40 pm

On FOX Pre-race - 2 PM (ET)







TOPICS: Extended News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: daytona; nascar; wcgnascarthread; wcgrules; westcoastgalnascar
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To: WestCoastGal
Jr is far from a retard. He’s more successful than any other driver out there business wise.

He acted like one out there today. As for business success, he owes 99% of it to his father. No wonder his own step-mother despises him.

1,141 posted on 02/15/2009 4:36:18 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: WestCoastGal

Thanks much. I dunno how you did that either but I appreciate it.


1,142 posted on 02/15/2009 4:42:54 PM PST by Wneighbor
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To: glock rocks; SouthTexas; All
FReeper scores are posted already...
1,143 posted on 02/15/2009 4:49:08 PM PST by tubebender (Why do they sterilize the needle for lethal injections?)
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To: WVKayaker
...and this was in response to what exact situation.

I told you just a few posts ago it was the May 2008 Richmond race. You seem to be flailing about wildly and you can't comprehend things from just a short while ago.

Your quote does not line up with your accusation.

Well, here are some more. Most of your posts were removed so there's not much left but there is plenty to show that you said the only thing that matters is who gets there first, and whoever does get there first is the better driver:

"Do you know what the phrase "survival of the fittest" implies? It means that if you get there first, you win. In racing, it is a combination of man and machine."

"Testosterone is what makes a man! In racing, there is no room for second place, or didn't you know that?"

"A winner is willing to take risks, including taking himself out. Any time they tangle, it can happen to either party. It is the skill that makes the difference."

"Racing is ONLY about FIRST!"

It's clear that you said the driver that emerges from a tangle and gets to the finish line first has the most skill. So is Dale Jr better than the 10 drivers that wrecked or isn't he?

I NEVER said what you claimed! Like I said, classy... Not!

Your above posts prove you said the driver that finishes above the other drivers is the better driver.

1,144 posted on 02/15/2009 4:57:38 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: glock rocks

Off to pick the poodle up.

Only a Marine could admit something like that publicly, and not be a bit embarrassed :o)

There’s a lot of things I could be embarassed for .. but that ain’t one of them. :-}


1,145 posted on 02/15/2009 5:01:52 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: glock rocks

LOL. That’s an assault nail gun isn’t it?


1,146 posted on 02/15/2009 5:05:30 PM PST by McGruff (Oh no, there goes Tokyo! Go go PORKZILLA!)
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To: LdSentinal
You are wrong on all counts. His father did not start JRM for him, he did that after Sr’s death, his father did not start all his other businesses, Whisky River, Shifting Gears Production company, Real Estate, Alabama Motorsports and Padukah Raceway. The only thing he gave him was his name and he had to fight Teresa to have the full name. And, he gave him the racing gene, that's it.

How do you know his stepmother despises him?

I just love how so many think they know this man, but know nothing at all. Mostly just jealous of his success.
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Passion of Dale Jr. fosters sweeping business empire
Inside NASCAR: Most popular driver establishes model
By Raygan Swan, NASCAR.COM
February 11, 2009
03:58 PM EST

Dale Earnhardt Jr. once said if you can have a good time doing business and break even you're doing well, but if you're not having fun you better be making some money.

Needless to say, the scrawny towhead kid from Kannapolis, N.C., raised on simple family values is having his cake and eating it, too; Earnhardt is having a blast and making too much cash to count.

The 34-year-old community-college graduate is a proven entrepreneur and can walk into a boardroom with the same confidence and passion he carries climbing into the driver's seat of a race car. He forges multi-million dollar partnerships and signs NFL-sized endorsements all while chilled out in a pair of jeans and the shelltoe adidas Superstars.

“Once you get the ball rolling, the thing pretty much takes care of itself.”

DALE EARNHARDT JR.

Earnhardt's face is virtually on every purchasable product in America from candy bars to clothing. Be it a Dale Jr. binky or a Dale Jr. garden accessory, the selection is so vast you could furnish your entire house with his likeness. He controls 40 percent of the marketplace for licensed product sales for NASCAR drivers and sold at least 20 million units last year.

But Earnhardt set a major tone for his business future and career in 2007 when he opened up the JR Motorsports shop in Mooresville, N.C. Housing not only his Nationwide Series team but his licensing, marketing, fan and brand initiatives, the building is 66,000 square feet of massive venture space. All while keeping the Earnhardt business model at the forefront: authenticity, common sense and a strong handshake. These are all the tools on which Junior relies to run his business empire.

“Heads will roll. No, that's my motto at JR Motorsports,” laughed Earnhardt, waiting to answer dozens of reporters at Daytona International Speedway. “Heads will role, that's what we like to say.”

Hardly. A narcissistic dictator is far from Earnhardt's in-the-office demeanor. His employees say he handles the day-to-day pressures with a “laid back grace” and maintains the down-to-earth persona fans have grown to love since the driver appeared on the NASCAR scene nearly a decade ago.

Of the many hats Dale Earnhardt Jr. wears, the helmet comes first.

“They know I'm just a normal damn dude. I can't fool them,” said Earnhardt, who just like his father wanted to pursue his own business. Both began their ventures through team ownership and grew their brands through marketing, endorsements and licensed merchandise.

Now, Earnhardt is expanding his portfolio into assets he knows will be around long after he retires from racing. It's a thought the driver is not fond of as the pressure and desire to win a Cup title is top of mind, but so is the future of JR Motorsports and the opportunities to follow.

Among the first has been Whisky River, Earnhardt's signature nightclub that opened last spring .

Dale doesn't attempt anything unless he is passionate about it. He is as real as they come.”

“It's more successful than I anticipated by three or four times. I had a pretty good idea where I felt like I was going to be but it just quadrupled,” Earnhardt said of the club's overnight popularity in Charlotte's uptown.

A contracted management team runs the 10,000-square-foot watering hole where country stars and athletes come to play, but Earnhardt himself likes to keep his hands on the direction and feel of the club.

It's a direct reflection on Earnhardt's eclectic style and broad sweeping tastes. The ambiance inside is comparable to a scene from Urban Cowboy only updated with a uber modern décor and the swanky offerings that today's comforts demand.

“I think I enjoy the bar the most. I'd always wanted to get involved in ownership of a nightclub of some sort, because I really enjoy the entertainment side of it and I enjoy the camaraderie,” Earnhardt said. “It's kind of fun to be there and to see the employees working and see them taking pride in what they're doing, the meetings they have after every night, hearing everybody, how uniform everything is, how structured it is.

“I take a lot of pride in it.”

Pride in his work is what also led Earnhardt in 2006 to create his own production company, Hammerhead Entertainment. It's a small, unimposing building surrounded by woods and an unexplainable number of souped-up cars, but inside shows like Back in the Day and Shifting Gears are produced.

• Shop: Shifting Gears| Back in the Day

Taking a cue from John Madden's playbook, Earnhardt formed the production company to maintain more control over his footage and content in light of numerous video and commercial projects the driver performs each season.

“It was also a way to have direction over the production of footage. He loved watching Back in the Day and wanted to bring it to life and he did the pop-ups. That was his idea. Through Hammerhead, the production crew scripts it out so from a creative standpoint it's all Hammerhead and Dale Jr.,” said Kelley Earnhardt, president of JR Motorsports.

“Dale doesn't attempt anything unless he is passionate about it. He can't script or make up anything. He is as real as they come.”

Earnhardt also has real estate interests. Besides owning a company, he also has partnerships in two tracks: one in Paducah, Ky., and another in Mobile County, Ala. The Alabama Motorsports Park is under construction and boasts three racing venues: a road course, a karting track and an oval track that's being branded “A Dale Earnhardt Jr. Speedway.” Gates at the 2,400-acre complex are expected to be fully operational by 2011.

NONE OF THAT IS FROM DALE SR! WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO ON?

1,147 posted on 02/15/2009 5:14:17 PM PST by WestCoastGal (If we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.P Henry)
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To: WestCoastGal
How do you know his stepmother despises him?

Did you miss their schenannigans several years ago which led to Jr. bolting to Hendrick?

As for your article, Jr, would have been nothing without daddy backing him in.

I have never seen Dale Jr. drive so irresponsively. He proved that the NASCAR's favorite racer is not only a dirty racer, but a liar and can't own up to his mistakes. Besides his two pit mistakes. He took out his frustration on racers on the lead lap and should be reprimanded!

Sadly, you and the rest of the Jr. nation are like Obama supporters: wearing blinders that your man could do wrong. Sickening.

1,148 posted on 02/15/2009 5:28:41 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal
"Did you miss their schenannigans several years ago which led to Jr. bolting to Hendrick? "

No I didn't miss any of it. Jr left because Teresa really has no interest in the racing part of the business and it showed in the cars performance on the track. Why do you think all the Earnhardt's, Eury's and others left DEI as well? [except for Kerry who hasn't been heard from except when his son Jeffrey was reprimanded just recently for not showing up for work] Jr still defends Teresa and will not get into what happened. He did take Taylor to Aspen with him, so things can't be that horrible between T and Jr.

"As for your article, Jr, would have been nothing without daddy backing him in."

I have no idea how you think that's possible, Jr didn't even get anything from Sr's will, not even his name as I mentioned earlier.

"I have never seen Dale Jr. drive so irresponsively. He proved that the NASCAR's favorite racer is not only a dirty racer, but a liar and can't own up to his mistakes. Besides his two pit mistakes. He took out his frustration on racers on the lead lap and should be reprimanded!"

Racing incidents all are liked or disliked depending on your like or dislike for the driver. In this case, obviously, you can't stand Jr. On the other hand Vickers did not need to block Jr all the way down into the grass. Jr trying to not get penalized for being below the dreaded yellow line went back behind Vickers who was loose from that drastic move to block, Jr tapped him and because Vickers didn't have the talent to save it he lost it. How many other drivers out there today were tapped front back and side without losing their racecar? A lot from what I saw. If Jr was in the wrong he would have admitted it, he always does. In this case he said what I explained above.

"Sadly, you and the rest of the Jr. nation are like Obama supporters: wearing blinders that your man could do wrong. Sickening."

That's a pretty despicable comparison IMO.

1,149 posted on 02/15/2009 5:53:51 PM PST by WestCoastGal (If we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.P Henry)
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To: hoagy62
It’s over! KENSETH.

Yeah, Baby!!

I wish I'd have watched the end of the race. I was in the garage framing a wall. Should have been sitting in the den watching the race!!

1,150 posted on 02/15/2009 5:54:44 PM PST by meyer (The left is flooding the ship - let's quit bailing water. We are all John Galt.)
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To: WestCoastGal
No I didn't miss any of it. Jr left because Teresa really has no interest in the racing part of the business and it showed in the cars performance on the track.

Excuse me? Teresa had no interest in promoting the success of her business? I guess she wanted her business to fail and so she held a public feud with her #1 driver. Any other conspiracy theory you want to venture forth?

Racing incidents all are liked or disliked depending on your like or dislike for the driver. In this case, obviously, you can't stand Jr.

For his retarded purposeful maneuver today, yes, I despise Jr. for creating a wreck that could have killed other drivers. As for incredulous belief that Vickers does not have the talent to prevent such a wreck, I doubt that Jr. could prevent his car from crashing from a hook to his left-rear.

That's a pretty despicable comparison IMO.

An apt description IMO. It would be fortunate for Jr. if somebody doesn't bash him on the back of his head this week for his retarded/bone headed act today.

1,151 posted on 02/15/2009 6:11:48 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

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27 Benders de Fenders 188 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 188
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1,152 posted on 02/15/2009 6:22:37 PM PST by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President! (Same tag until IT is gone...))
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To: WestCoastGal

Looks like you are doing just fine. :-]


1,153 posted on 02/15/2009 6:27:29 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: WestCoastGal

Hey there. Checking back in after going through the thread!!! Thanks for posting and being the leader of our band of assorted mistrients.......

Congrats to Matt Kenseth, 2009 Daytona 500 Champion. Way to go Robot!!!

BUT.......

if NASCAR considers this the SUPERBOWL of automobile racing and if they are really committed to being fan friendly(the race didn’t officially sell out till late last night)in these tough economic times, then every effort must be made to complete the 200 laps in the race.

None of us are weather experts(although it’s a hobby of mine)if you know the rain is a real threat(after this morning you would have thought they got that memo)then adjust the schedule and start earlier......

A 3:40PM start, are you kidding me?? Start the race at 2;30 and you’ve got the entire 200 in. If they are so worried about ad revenve, I think FOX covered that with the commercials every 27 seconds, and a video about a damn gopher.....

I’m just sayin’......

As for Jr. and the incident, that’s a tough one. I take the high road giving Vickers blame for initiating contact, and Jr. for contact after dropping below the double yellow. That makes Dale a driver, not a bully who seeks intentional contact to gain an advantage.

SEE YA NEXT WEEK .!!! Enjoy racin’ in your back yard!!


1,154 posted on 02/15/2009 6:34:09 PM PST by cleveland gop (Jack Bauer is back!!! Are you in a FLANK 2 position???)
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To: cleveland gop
"if NASCAR considers this the SUPERBOWL of automobile racing..."

I consider the Super Bowl the Daytona 500 of football.

"None of us are weather experts..."

Correct. It rained earlier in the day. The radar looked worse than it actually was. Florida weather is like that. There is a lot that happens at the track which the fans at home don't see, and as such, shifting the start time isn't as easy at Daytona as it might be at Stafford Springs. I disagree with many of the calls that NASCAR makes, but the race started when it did... That's racin'!

"As for Jr. and the incident, that’s a tough one"

Not really. Vickers pushed Junior down and Junior pushed back. It was a racing deal... Stuff happens.

"SEE YA NEXT WEEK .!!! Enjoy racin’ in your back yard!!

You Betchya!!:)

1,155 posted on 02/15/2009 7:06:09 PM PST by Cyberrat (Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.)
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To: SouthTexas; All

ALERT, ALERT!!!

Ann Coulter on with Bill Cunningham tonight during the second(11pm EST)hour!!!


1,156 posted on 02/15/2009 7:19:23 PM PST by cleveland gop (Jack Bauer is back!!! Are you in a FLANK 2 position???)
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To: cleveland gop

On where?


1,157 posted on 02/15/2009 7:32:25 PM PST by SouthTexas (oops there goes another trillion bucks...)
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To: SouthTexas

On Bill Cunningham’s radio show. Remember he took over for Matt Drudge.


1,158 posted on 02/15/2009 7:41:53 PM PST by cleveland gop (Jack Bauer is back!!! Are you in a FLANK 2 position???)
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To: cleveland gop

I’ll see if I can find it.

Don’t normally do radio at night.


1,159 posted on 02/15/2009 7:47:39 PM PST by SouthTexas (oops there goes another trillion bucks...)
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To: SouthTexas

Check your 50.000 watt talkradio blowtorches, you’l find him.

Or catch an internet stream. WABC, WTAM(my local station), WJR,etc.....

So Joe Torre and Terell Owens are at the NBA All Star Game and Craig Sager just finished interviewing John McCain. OH BOY!!!


1,160 posted on 02/15/2009 7:57:55 PM PST by cleveland gop (Jack Bauer is back!!! Are you in a FLANK 2 position???)
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