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To: TheCipher

15 civil actions haven’t failed. Most have them have not even been brought to trial yet. The first one , the Berg case, was remanded back to the lower court. It is still in play. None of these cases have even been heard on the merits yet.
Yes, it was easy to remove Blago with the prosecuters releasing corroborating testimony to the public. The problem in this case is any bit of corroborating evidence ( school records, Selective service registration, etc. ) he refuses to have released to the public. He won’t even allow the verification of the index records ( which is just a “yes” or “no” answer )to the info in the fields of his BC. Don’t you find anything odd with that ?

Yes, people take criminal matters more seriously. If one of the cases suceeds in producing a BC and it does not match what he has posted online, you can bet there will be criminal complaints brought by people for fraud.


Philip J. Berg demanded that the courts verify Obama’s original birth certificate and other documents proving his American citizenship. Berg’s latest appeal, requesting an injunction to stop the Electoral College from selecting the 44th president, was dismissed by Federal District Court R. Barclay Surrick.
Berg then appealed to the US Supreme Court and after being introduced in conference for a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari by Justice David Souter of the U.S. Supreme Court, Berg’s Petition was denied without comment by the court.

Berg resubmitted his Petition for a Writ of Certiorari and it was taken on by U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy. On December 17th it was denied by Kennedy.

Berg resubmitted his Petition for a Writ of Certiorari for a third time. On January 12th it was denied prior to judgement for a third time by the US Supreme Court.

Berg also petitioned the US Supreme Court for a Stay of the Certification of the Electoral College Vote. His application for a stay was denied by Justice Scalia on January 21st.

Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing.

Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut’s secretary of state, making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.

Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state’s 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public’s support. However the 55 California Electors did vote on December 15th and Certification of the Electoral College vote occurred on January 6th.
The California Supreme Court denied this case on December 5th, 2008.
The case was submitted to the US Supreme Court for a Petition for Writ of Certiorari which was denied by Justice Kennedy on December 17th, 2008.
This case was resubmitted to the Supreme Court through Chief Justice John Roberts and will be distributed for conference of January 23rd, 2009.

Chicago attorney Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama’s vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.

Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama’s eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama’s citizenship. His case was denied.

In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.

In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama’s citizenship. The case was denied.

In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama’s birth certificate. His request for an injuction against Georgia’s secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.

In Texas, Jody Brockhausen of Round Rock, who runs the Web site, obamaverifybirthplace.com, wrote in her lawsuit that the Texas Secretary of State’s Office should decertify Obama’s name from the state’s 2008 election ballot unless it receives documents proving that Obama was born in Hawaii. Williamson County district judge Bert Carnes dismissed the case arguing that Brockhausen did not have standing.


194 posted on 02/18/2009 12:35:08 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
All the decisions you mention in the Berg case were for applications for injunctions pending the Writ of Certiorari. Those were denied. However, in the original filing (08 -570 ) , the Writ of Certiorari before judgement was denied. That means it was sent back to the lower court. It is now working its way through the docket. If the lower court decides against Berg, it can still be appealed to SCOTUS.

08-570 BERG, PHILIP J. V. OBAMA, BARACK, ET AL. The motion of Bill Anderson for leave to file a brief as amicus curiae is granted. The petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment is denied.

Donofrio and Cort were both applications for stays. They were denied on the old standby "standing ".

The Texas case and Washington State cases were denied because they were considered moot. When filed, they weren't moot, but by the time it got on the docket the clock had run out on what they were requesting.

None of these cases so far has been tried on the merits. They have all been dismissed on technicalities.

Berg currently has 3 suits pending - one of them is under seal by order of the court.There are a few more cases coming up that can't be dismissed as being moot or that the person doesn't have standing . ( Incidentally, the Keyes case filed an ammended complaint just to avoid the issue of it being deemed moot ).

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this issue. Only time will tell ....

195 posted on 02/18/2009 8:02:42 PM PST by TheCipher
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