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To: Non-Sequitur; BP2; LucyT
Obviously citizen by birth and natural born citizen are synonymous.

No, they are not. Amendment 14 defines two paths to US citizenship, but NOWHERE in this Amendment will you find the term, "natural born citizen." Amendment 14 does not in any way affect the usage or meaning of the term, "natural born citizen," in Article II.

"Natural born citizen," is a requirement, of Article II and is not a class of citizen affirmed by Amendment 14, nor has it ever been. The term has always been interpreted to mean a child born on US Soil of two US citizens, which means Obama is not eligible.

98 posted on 02/13/2009 11:42:40 AM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: Polarik

Ah, there’s no way of reasoning with unreasonable people.


100 posted on 02/13/2009 11:44:27 AM PST by LucyT
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To: Polarik
No, they are not. Amendment 14 defines two paths to US citizenship, but NOWHERE in this Amendment will you find the term, "natural born citizen." Amendment 14 does not in any way affect the usage or meaning of the term, "natural born citizen," in Article II.

The Constitution also defines two, and only two forms of citizenship - natural born and naturalized. If we agree that there are only two forms of citizenship and that one of them is naturalized then it kind of narrows down the other form, doesn't it?

The term has always been interpreted to mean a child born on US Soil of two US citizens...

Not by any law or clause of the Constitution or legal decision I'm aware of.

101 posted on 02/13/2009 11:55:13 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Polarik
The term has always been interpreted to mean a child born on US Soil of two US citizens, which means Obama is not eligible.

Can you supply a citation from a court of record supporting that statement?

139 posted on 02/13/2009 5:04:47 PM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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