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1 posted on 02/12/2009 12:00:53 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

So much for HIPA


2 posted on 02/12/2009 12:02:53 PM PST by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: Sub-Driver

Time for the lawsuits on this outrageous intrusion of privacy to begin


3 posted on 02/12/2009 12:03:27 PM PST by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hillary Care gave the congress back to the Pubbies after only two years.

Hopefully this provision will do the same.


4 posted on 02/12/2009 12:03:30 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: Sub-Driver

Except for Mr. Øbama, Democratic leaders of the House and Senate


5 posted on 02/12/2009 12:04:18 PM PST by Son House (Limbaugh's Bipartisan Economic Stimulus Plan is offering Mr. Øbama an OUT from terrible legislation)
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..ah ah ah..all my shots?

6 posted on 02/12/2009 12:05:32 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Sub-Driver

Doesn’t this violate privacy rights?

I know I always have to sign a form releasing ANY of my medical records to another physician.

Will I be asked to sign a form releasing them to the feds?


7 posted on 02/12/2009 12:05:57 PM PST by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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“When confronted by this provision by Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly, cancer survivor Arlen Spector professed surprise at hearing about the inclusion of such a program. He then promised to vote against any bill that included such a provision”.

The provision is still in there, any bets that he’s going to honor his word?????


9 posted on 02/12/2009 12:08:29 PM PST by TxAnn56
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To: Sub-Driver
You gotta hand it to Barry. He is following the script nearly to a "T". This is not the Porkulus Bill, it should be heralded as "The Marxism Conversion Act of 2009", with its 'stealth-health' provision.

Washington DC shall henceforth be renamed Obamastan (pronounced oh-bah-mah-stahn), and the country shall be known as the United Socialist States of North Amerika.

10 posted on 02/12/2009 12:09:03 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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“In other news, today the federal Office of Health Information Technology confirmed that the health records for 178 million Americans had been copied by hackers breaking into a computer in the main office in Washington. They emphasized that they did not expect that anyone’s health care privacy had been compromised by the break-in and said that they were taking steps to improve the security of the system to prevent future break-ins. The flawed security was traced to the former Bush administration that badly botched the computerization of health care records.”


11 posted on 02/12/2009 12:10:46 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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So, the government, without our consent, collecting all of our medical records is not a violation of the Fourth Amendment, but the Commander-in-Chief, though the NSA, conducting signals intelligence against terrorist abroad, when their communications come into or through the United States, is?

The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.


17 posted on 02/12/2009 12:15:30 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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I guarantee that this medical database will be used to evaluate job applicants, just as they do credit reports now.

Dems will say that only doctors will have access to the info. Guess what, company HR departments can hire a doctor too.

You may never know why you didn't get that perfect job. Maybe it was that high blood pressure or stress test? Maybe you once went to counseling?

18 posted on 02/12/2009 12:16:49 PM PST by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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I think it’s damned well time for another Revolution, myself.


19 posted on 02/12/2009 12:17:04 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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This will be great, actually. There will be a great black market for health care. In a environment where "decisons are made as to your value to society" one will not want one's health record to reflect anything but the picture of health. So if you really want to have yor hypertension or whatever treated you won't want the gummint to know you need the medication because that may have an impact on your "relative value to society". We can have daytime clinics where everyone gets seen for their mandatory health maintenance and they all claim to be the absolute image of vitality. Then at 5 PM we can see those who actually want to pay cash for treatment of their real illnesses. Sort of an advancement on the old Soviet way of doing things.

Μολὼν λάβε

21 posted on 02/12/2009 12:20:17 PM PST by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)")
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Isn’t the healthcare industry one of the largest job producers in the US? It’ll tank.


23 posted on 02/12/2009 12:22:22 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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To: Sub-Driver

They’ve been hacking our banking, federal and military info, now they want our medical records? Yay, privacy.

But seriously, we will be scanned before getting a job, for insurance (with it dropped if we don’t report a newly discovered diagnosis quick enough), and of course... this is easier for those they choose not to give care to; This will be the Schiavos, disabled and elderly (Note: they don’t need it for the abortions though, I guess they’ll tag the fetal tissue they trade instead).

People this is the road, not to technology, but to eugenics. See the Groningen Protocol and Britain’s catalogue system. Next, because of that other branch of eugenics, the green movement, you will not be sustainable because you’re not a ‘productive’ human being... or you’re too much of a burden for the gov’t/taxpayer (called useless eaters). While those who have all the kids, do I have to say, will not be affected for some reason. BTW, the doctors/health board will decide... not the parents, relatives or caretakers.

Also, look to the Octuplets mom to start the movement back to another Buck case (sterilization).

And no... I wish I was kidding.

BTW, one of Felos buddies who won the Schiavo case for him(rep. Mr. Schiavo), Perelli is now on the hill with the O (yep, raised 500K for him).

And guess who does a thriving business in Hawaii... Felos and the Euthanasia Society. Think grandma.

Same beast, different name.


24 posted on 02/12/2009 12:24:10 PM PST by AliVeritas (They serve Moloch/Ba'al. Prepare for punishment. Gird your loins, pray, pray, pray.)
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28 posted on 02/12/2009 12:28:12 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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” Health Information Technology (HIT)”

Sort of brings a whole new meaning to “HIT list” ...

(or maybe not so different a meaning after all)

/gallowshumor

:-(


34 posted on 02/12/2009 12:37:52 PM PST by green pastures
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I'm waiting for someone to hack the database and publish some politician's medical records.

For example, does Bubba really have Peyronie's disease? Did he OD on cocaine? Did he father Danny Williams? How many times has he been treated for STD's including raging herpes over the years? Did anybody trace his transmission of STD's -- and if so, what did they find? How many times did Bubba dose Hillary?

And consider medical records for the boy in the middle. Ever wonder how much taxpayer money it took to treat this germ factory? Think the records might contain items of interest ... to somebody?

And what about Harry, and Barry, and Nancy? Or the Reverend Jesse or the Reverend Al?

You know, I think I'm talking myself into beginning to like this monstrosity.

38 posted on 02/12/2009 12:40:03 PM PST by Zakeet (Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal.)
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I just posted this:

Porkulus alert: The massive expansion in health-care regulation

41 posted on 02/12/2009 12:47:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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This has been coming for a long, long, time. The question “what about HIPAA?” is wrongheaded. This database IS HIPAA. The same legislation that gave us HIPAA laid the ground work for this.

Working backwards, here’s a referene to an NPR report from June 2004, and a “Question and Answer” about standardized government-mandated “Code Sets” for describing medical conditions and occurrences, from 2000 [Clinton Administration].

From NPR:

July 22, 2004 · The Department of Health and Human Services announces plan to computerize and standardize health records over the next 10 years. The new system, which would make patients’ records available nationwide, is aimed at boosting privacy standards and improving health care efficiency. NPR’s Joanne Silberner reports.

Working further backwards,here’s a website from 2000 with information on “Code Sets”. — Note they were adopted almost a decade ago, “As HIPAA standards” — the “privacy act” makes sure that anyone can encapsulate your medical history in shorthand through the use of mandatory government codes.

http://aspe.hhs.gov/admnsimp/faqcode.htm#codesetsadopted

What code sets have been adopted as HIPAA standards?
The Secretary has adopted the following code sets as the standard medical data code sets:

International Classification of Diseases, 9th Edition, Clinical Modification, (ICD-9-CM), Volumes 1 and 2 (including The Official ICD-9-CM Guidelines for Coding and Reporting), as updated and distributed by HHS, for the following conditions:

Diseases.
Injuries.
Impairments.
Other health related problems and their manifestations.
Causes of injury, disease, impairment, or other health-related problems.
International Classification of Diseases, 9th Edition, Clinical Modification, (ICD-9-CM), Volume 3 Procedures (including The Official ICD-9-CM Guidelines for Coding and Reporting), as updated and distributed by HHS, for the following procedures or other actions taken for diseases, injuries, and impairments on hospital inpatients reported by hospitals:

Prevention.
Diagnosis.
Treatment.
Management.
National Drug Codes (NDC), as updated and distributed by HHS, in collaboration with drug manufacturers, for the following: [Note that Secretary Thompson has indicated in a letter to the NCVHS that HHS will publish an NPRM in the near future proposing to retract the adoption of NDC for all transactions save those for retail pharmacies.]

Drugs.
Biologics.
Code on Dental Procedures and Nomenclature, as updated and distributed by the American Dental Association, for dental services.

The combination of Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (formerly known as Health Care Financing Administration) Common Procedure Coding System (HCPCS), as updated and distributed by HHS; and Current Procedural Terminology, Fourth Edition (CPT-4), as updated and distributed by the American Medical Association, for physician services and other health related services. These services include, but are not limited to, the following:

Physician services.
Physical and occupational therapy services.
Radiological procedures.
Clinical laboratory tests.
Other medical diagnostic procedures.
Hearing and vision services.
Transportation services including ambulance.
The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (formerly known as Health Care Financing Administration) Common Procedure Coding System (HCPCS), as updated and distributed by CMS, HHS, for all other substances, equipment, supplies, or other items used in health care services. These items include, but are not limited to, the following:

Medical supplies.
Orthotic and prosthetic devices.
Durable medical equipment.

Can HCPCS Level 3 codes established on a local basis still be used?

No. All local codes will be eliminated. Users that need codes must apply to the appropriate organizations (e.g. CMS for HCPCS codes, the AMA for CPT-4 codes) for national codes.

Where can I get more information about the code sets?
ICD-9-CM: Official version is available on CD-ROM from the Government Printing Office (GPO) at 202-512-1800 or FAX: 202-512-2250. The CD-ROM contains the ICD-9-CM classification and coding guidelines. Versions of ICD-9-CM are also available from several private sector vendors.

CPT-4: Official version is available from the American Medical Association. Versions are also available from several private sector vendors.

HCPCS: Information about HCPCS is available from the CMS by searching their web site at http://cms.hhs.gov.

Code on Dental Procedures and Nomenclature: Official version is available from the American Dental Association at 800-947-4746.

NDC: Official versions of the files are available on the Internet at http://www.fda.gov/cder/ndc/index.htm. NDC codes are also published in the Physicians’ Desk Reference under the individual drug product listings and “How supplied.” The supplements are available quarterly on diskette from the National Technical Information Service at 703-487-6430.


43 posted on 02/12/2009 12:50:02 PM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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