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This happened at Western Oregon University, outside of Salem, OR.

I am still NOT clear as to whether you can legally carry (with a license) on a college campus in Oregon, but from what I heard last night from Lars Larson, you CAN....

1 posted on 02/12/2009 8:50:52 AM PST by goodnesswins
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These “people” are one of the very reasons for the 2nd Amendment.


2 posted on 02/12/2009 8:57:04 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: goodnesswins; Salvation

Oregon Ping.

Lars is correct, it is perfectly Legal if you have a conceal-carry Permit. WOU ought to be sued up one side down the other, along with the State of Oregon for allowing False accusations and criminal activity on the Campus of WOU, and the “faculty” involved in the false and illegal trial they put this honorable Veteran to.

FIRE THEM ALL and sentence them to 2 years in Jail. Maybe then they will see the POINT of having a weapon. So you can not be made into a defenseless victim!


3 posted on 02/12/2009 8:58:24 AM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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The tribunal that tried Marine veteran Jeffery Maxwell laughed after suspending him from Western Oregon University and sentencing him to:a "psychological evaluation stating he is not a threat to himself of others" and a mandatory "ten page paper" " with references, "citing, but not limited to: 1) the importance of following the law, even through civil disobedience. 2) the importance of accepting responsibility for one's actions

These are the same totalitarians who, if the Constitution had been weak enough back then, would have assigned MLK to a psychological evaluation stating he is not a threat to himself of others and a mandatory ten page paper with references, citing, but not limited to the importance of following the law, even through civil disobedience, and the importance of accepting responsibility for one's actions.

The whole point of civil disobedience is to violate bad laws ... just like the whole point of Dear Leader's "stimulus" package is to spend money that we don't have to increase the power of our socialist leaders.

4 posted on 02/12/2009 8:59:02 AM PST by MathDoc (If there ever was a time that Obama looked like an amateur, it's right now.)
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I don’t understand. He was kicked out of the college, and forced to undergo therepy, write a paper, etc?


5 posted on 02/12/2009 9:00:25 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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So the party cadre has already instituted self-criticism and reeducation meetings to protect against counter-revolutionary tendencies.

And they say colleges aren't little Marxist states.

Well, actually no one says that, do they?

6 posted on 02/12/2009 9:02:18 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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We should help write the paper:

“) the importance of following the law,even through civil disobedience.

Thesis: Critical that liberal who desire to disarm the law-abiding public follow the law in doing so, because to harass and intimidate law-abiding citizens for exercising their rights is a waste of tax-payer resources and brings contempt both upon themselves and the law.

“2) the importance of accepting responsibility for one’s actions”

Thesis: college and DA failed to accept responsibility of their flagrant disregard of the law and rights of others enoucourages tyranny.

“3) and recognizing the impact possession of weapons on college campuses has on others.:

Thesis: lawful possession of weapons on college campuses protects studens and professors from predators. Numerous studies exists in this regard. Cite real-life examples of the Chinese killer going room-to-room -— cite law proposed to allow lawful carry to prevent similar murder sprees.


8 posted on 02/12/2009 9:03:46 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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I would expound upon the following topics in my response.

1) the importance of following the law,even through civil disobedience.

Discuss in detail how the college has the obligation to follow the law with it’s conduct and how it failed to do so and insisted on trampling the 2nd Amendment rights of it’s students contrary to law.

2) the importance of accepting responsibility for one’s actions

Hammer home how citizens have not only the right to defend themselves but the obligation to do so. Show how a responsible person uses firearms to be responsibly prepared against an attack by criminals. Show how it is IRRESPONSIBLE to depend on others or the police to protect yourself.

3) and recognizing the impact possession of weapons on college campuses has on others.”

Show how weapon possession makes the area safer for all on the campus.


9 posted on 02/12/2009 9:04:15 AM PST by taxcontrol
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The DA admitted no wrongdoing on his part, or on the part of the police who arrested Jeff Maxwell for a “crime” that does not exist.

see this all time, cops make up what they think are crimes to arrest you...then let the d.a.’s sort it out...all in the name of making their arrest numbers look good...


10 posted on 02/12/2009 9:07:17 AM PST by tatsinfla
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"...recognizing the impact possession of weapons on college campuses has on others."

The possession of one firearm by one trained law-abiding citizen at the right place would have had a lifesaving impact on several others during the Virginia Tech rampage.

11 posted on 02/12/2009 9:08:25 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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I’ve passed along my concerns to Mr. Moser and that I will be contacting my fellow and former Marines to raise funds to help defend Mr. Maxwell and then use whatever means we can to see that Moser is sued personally and severally for his part in this.


12 posted on 02/12/2009 9:08:53 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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Better story on it here

http://www.katu.com/news/local/39453942.html

13 posted on 02/12/2009 9:11:23 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama - the ethical exception administration)
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Would the actions of WOU officials and students be considered a conspiracy to deny rights and thus actionable under federal law? If so, the Marine should go after all involved. They must be made to pay for their insolence.


14 posted on 02/12/2009 9:11:32 AM PST by nonsporting
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A lawsuit would help them clear their minds. I’d love to sit on that jury and award him the coffers of the “school”.


17 posted on 02/12/2009 9:13:53 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberalism is Communism, and both are a mental disorder. Grow up.)
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He should sue for a full refund of all tuition, fees and books he had to spend $$ on.


18 posted on 02/12/2009 9:15:53 AM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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God knows, there are plenty of weak, talentless males infesting the bureaucracy of “educational” institutions, but my observations have been that spiteful lesbians are a real dominant force at many of these schools.

Their utter hatred and disdain for masculine, heterosexual males oozes from their every pore.


19 posted on 02/12/2009 9:17:27 AM PST by EyeGuy
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Sue their asses off.


22 posted on 02/12/2009 9:20:25 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Somewhere In Kenya, A Village Is Missing It's Idiot)
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A key element of communist, totalitarian show trials is that the accussed must be made to sign a complete comfession. That why they wanted the term paper and dictated its’ content.

LIBERALS ARE FASCISTS.


23 posted on 02/12/2009 9:22:31 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Somewhere In Kenya, A Village Is Missing It's Idiot)
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Seems like Jeff should visit a tort on WOU, the four "tribunal" judges, and the student association.

These idiots laid themselves wide open, he should impoverish them.

27 posted on 02/12/2009 9:28:30 AM PST by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate, makes a Marxist President.)
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28 posted on 02/12/2009 9:36:40 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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What a terrible article. Many things are violations of university policy that are not illegal, and still create liability to discipline as provided in university policy.

The "better story" linked above in turn links to what is apparently the actual University policy, which plainly prohibits people from bearing licensed firearms onto campus unless they meet additional requirements which there is no contention were met in this case.

The (somewhat) interesting question -- not raised here -- is whether the rule violated the U.S. or Oregon Constitution. The short answer is "highly unlikely," since the courts have long recognized the right of public schools to circumscribe certain freedoms, and continue to recognize even post Heller a relatively broad freedom to regulate firearms.

Regardless of whether or not the rule might be unconstitutional, it's not the duty of a student disciplinary panel to judge the Constitutionality of its rule book. That's for a real court to do.
29 posted on 02/12/2009 9:37:05 AM PST by only1percent
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