Who asked for bailout money? All corporations? No. All financial institutions? No. Some large, failing financial institutions? Yes.
So, this does nothing to prove your point, since most corporations don't fit that description; most corporations did not ask and have not asked for bailout money.
A corporation IS a collective.
That's just plain wrong.
You can reach some very wrong conclusions when you begin with a false premise.
A corporation is like a legal individual who is not a real person. A corporation can be owned and managed by a single individual shareholder, as many attorneys are. (P.C. = Personal Corporation)
A corporate charter is just a tool. And like any tool, it is the manner in which it is used that determines the character of the result.
Again, wrong, or at best incomplete.
When you make up your own definitions along the way, you can always win the argument!
You could just as easily have written, "The Constitution is just a tool", or "Religion is just a tool".
While each of those could be thought of as "a tool" in some ways, the problem is the word "just", which suggests that "a tool" is all it is.
Corporatism is a form of collectivism
More of your newly-defined language...
The fact that the two have absolutely nothing to do with each other seems to be irrelevant in your world.
You've already admitted, and I have shown, that some corporations are not collective, even by your definition. And there are many collectivist organizations which are not corporations. So the connection is purely in your own mind.
Corporatism is the worship of the tool.
Worship??? Really?
Who is "worshipping" their corporation? Should I dare to ask for evidence of this absurd claim?
Even if I accept your invented definition, I can then dismiss your whole fantasy world if you can't prove that anyone really "worships" their corporate charter, since that would show that there is no "corporatism".
Some of the folks that worked at Argent Mortgage priorly worked at Enron. Are we seeing a pattern of (im)moral corporate, collective, behavior here? Hmmm.
LOL!
Really? Are you serious?
Wow.
What was the object of worship there? At Lehman Bros? At any of the imploding financial organizations?
Umm... I have no idea. But I'm guessing you intuitively know exactly what/whom each and every employee was worshipping.
Is your special definition of "worship" coming along soon?
> ...definition of "collective governance"?
The infrastructure by which governance is implemented. The Corporate Bureaucracy.
Of course! Since "collective" is definied as "corporate", "collective governance" is synonymous with "corporate governance".
Gotcha.
Fascism is a behavior inherent in Human nature, not a movement in an Italian opera; it is a behavior that is observable throughout human history.
It can be observed throughout the Bible, generally given the name Baal. Baal being a Hebrew word for Lord or Master.
Essential, it is the worship of governance, or government, and its various trappings - economic and otherwise.
Ahh...
So the Baal worshippers of the Old Testament were really just worshipping their corporations? And Fascism wasn't really started in 1919 by Benito Mussolini, but rather during Old Testament times?
Is the word "governance" in the Old Testament?
Historians will certainly want to know about your discoveries.
Got Bread and Circuses?
No, but you're giving me a headache.
cor·po·rate (kôrpr-t, kôrprt)
adj.
1. Formed into a corporation; incorporated: the corporate companies of industrial America.
2. Of or relating to a corporation: corporate assets; corporate culture.
3. United or combined into one body; collective.
4. Of or relating to a corporative government or political system.
"For wherever two or more are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them." --Matthew 18:20"
...Indeed, "corporate" comes from "corpus" (body; i.e. hoc est corpus meum). Through the body of Christ (incarnate and sacramental; Rom. 6; I Cor. 11-12; ) the body of Christ (mystical) is created. Thus "when one member of the body suffers, all suffer" (I Cor. 12:26)....
1 John 4:4-5
4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them,because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
>>What was the object of worship there? At Lehman Bros? At any of the imploding financial organizations?
>>Umm... I have no idea.
Very well then, let's ask the question a different way: Whose will were they serving?
Got Moral Dilema?