[Antoninus]

The scoundrels on this thread have probably been badly injured by feminism in one form or another and I don't blame them for their cynicism - it's the man's point of view.

Perhaps. But real men don't say "told you so" when someone admits their fault. And real men don't make catty comments about someone's appearance when that someone is in the process of humbling themselves.

[SnarlinCubBear]

I won’t argue that point. And I will now shut up, like a good girl. ;) (soooo much left unsaid)