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Britain has produced unteachable 'uber-chavs'
The Telegraph ^ | 2/9/2009 | Nick Britten

Posted on 02/09/2009 4:19:28 PM PST by bruinbirdman

Ralph Surman, a national executive member of the Association of Teacher and Lecturers, said a significant number of young people who were brought up by single mothers in the 1980s are now doing nothing with their lives, have no work ethic, few social skills and cause higher crime rates.

Mr Surman, a deputy head of Cantrell Primary and Nursery School in Bulwell, Nottingham, said: "We must talk about a class of uber-chavs. They are not doing anything productive and are costing taxpayers a fortune.

"It is very difficult, almost impossible, to take these people now and provide basic social and work ethic skills.

"The offspring of the first big generation of single mothers were children in the 1980s. Now they are adults with their own children and the problems are leading to higher crime rates and low participation in the labour force."

He spoke after figures obtained by the Conservatives showed the number of 18 to 24-year-olds classed as Neet - young people not in education, employment or training - has soared over the last five years.

Unemployment rates among 20-year-olds alone has rocketed by almost 50 per cent since 2003.

David Willetts, Conservative shadow skills secretary, who obtained the figures following a Parliamentary question, said: "The rise is vivid evidence of the deep problems in our education and training system.

"People are dropping out once school finishes because they can't find the right opportunities. From 18 onwards, the position is especially bad."

The number of 18 to 24-year-olds Neets increased from 590,000 to 730,000 over the last five years. Numbers increased by 38,000 to 113,000, figures show.

Mr Surman's comments were criticised by David Mellen, head of education at Nottingham City Council, who said the term "uber-chav" demonises young people and is damaging.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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To: britemp
You’ve had them for decades. You call them white trash and rednecks.

Judging by the caricature on that wiki page, the word "wigger" also springs to mind.

61 posted on 02/09/2009 5:22:00 PM PST by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: bruinbirdman
English society almost unraveled after the Great War because so many of the upcoming generation had been killed. The vacuum destroyed the continuity of the culture, and the po-mo ennui we see today is the result.

However, that permissiveness has resulted in another generation of youth being lost, even more needlessly than in the trenches. And this time, the genocide was self-inflicted.

There but for the grace of God and a few stalwarts go we.

62 posted on 02/09/2009 5:22:30 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: 2banana
"I have read three straight articles from the telegraph with a conservative slant...what gives?"

A couple of brothers who own an island in the English Channel and The Daily Telegraph are rather conservative fellows.

David and Frederick Barclay

yitbos

63 posted on 02/09/2009 5:23:39 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: buccaneer81
Yobs are more likely to travel overseas to engage in rioting.

Does that mean the Chavs are more Patriotic as they only support the yoof violence at home?

64 posted on 02/09/2009 5:24:37 PM PST by Timocrat
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To: myknowledge
So why are lieberal government policies endorsing single parent families?

One of the basic requirements for socialism to take root is the destruction of the family unit so as to leave everyone dependant upon the state. It's all about control.

65 posted on 02/09/2009 5:24:47 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: bruinbirdman

Always spay and neuter the welfare bums. Always.


66 posted on 02/09/2009 5:26:01 PM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Travis McGee; Beckwith; LucyT; F15Eagle; SatinDoll; Fred Nerks
Hey Trav!

Chavs are ALL across Europe, not just Britain. And will they want to fight Islamofascism, or will they just lay down like the American leftists have?

They look like the spoiled brat generation of the 1960s reborn?

Anne Coulter proven right again on single Moms as parents?

Time will tell.

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Chavs have such a tribal dress code that you can spot one yards away! Now what makes the Chavs attire so funny is that they think they are at the cutting edge fashion and that by adorning their body with hunks of worthless 9ct gold crap they look rich! In reality what they do look like are a bunch of f**king pikeys!

Yes, it's Burberry baseball caps, Nickelson polo shirts and sovereign rings we're talking about here. Nasty. Moving on, we learn that essential Chav cultural prerequisites are a mobile phone - the flasher the better - a 15-year-old Vauxhall Nova, a Staffordshire Bull Terrier and a healthy regard for Rap, R&B and Dance.

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67 posted on 02/09/2009 5:27:09 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: dr_lew
Think of "uber" as "over" in the sense of "ultra" or "beyond." It's a superlative.

"Chav" is a new one on me. But the Brits have slang that we mere Americans will never BEGIN to understand ...

68 posted on 02/09/2009 5:28:15 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
RTF story.
69 posted on 02/09/2009 5:34:57 PM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: britemp

“You’ve had them for decades. You call them white trash and rednecks.”

you are at least partly in serious error. Rednecks work, often in farm-related endeavors, and often quite hard. Also the raw aggression from the inner city trash (here or UK) is way beyond what you will find when redneck wants to pick a fight.

White trash is a much closer social equivalent, though really the most similar comparison is found in inner city blacks.


70 posted on 02/09/2009 5:35:36 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Bunch of tossing wankers.
71 posted on 02/09/2009 5:36:36 PM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: bruinbirdman
Britain has produced unteachable 'uber-chavs'

... and they said if Britain lost WW2 they'd be speaking German

72 posted on 02/09/2009 5:40:13 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: x

The British must have more words for thugs and delinquents than any other nationality.
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They had a band named after “Unemployment Benefit form 40” UB40 ...


73 posted on 02/09/2009 5:53:39 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
The values (or lack thereof) are the same. I lived in England in '64-'66 when this started with the mods and rockers.

I see our society following theirs but lagging by 10 years.

74 posted on 02/09/2009 6:01:50 PM PST by pfflier
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To: bruinbirdman
Even the BBC comedy shows ridicule the chavs, epitomized by the Vicky Pollard character in "Little Britain."


75 posted on 02/09/2009 6:17:29 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What the heck is a neet?

A British "yute"? :-)

76 posted on 02/09/2009 6:17:47 PM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Clemenza

Bring back the draft—send them out to far away Jungles to fight the enemies of civilization. I would suggest Zimbabwe as a place to send them right now. Let them come back as heroes or in a box. A good drill instructor or a competent sergeant major could turn these Yobs around.


77 posted on 02/09/2009 6:34:11 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: bruinbirdman
they've come UN-done...
78 posted on 02/09/2009 6:43:19 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist -)
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To: Yaelle; bruinbirdman
Your post #50.

If a youth is paid by the government to do nothing, then it is the government keeping him down.

Yes indeed. For what would any or most youths do, if they did not have to have a sense of responsibility? Nothing to do, but shout a pathetic frontal assault at society. Then bring anxiety and grief to those that do work and are not affluent.

That society always has had the "Dregs" is a fact. Even if there is full employment they exist. Old Karl Marx, though discredited in many ways got one thing right. This was one of his terms for certain of those within this group.

"Lumpen proletariat:
refuse of all classes including swindlers, confidence tricksters,brothel keepers, rag and bone merchants, beggars ,and other flotsam of society".

Now these persons do not seem to have even a prayer of doing anything, that rewards the inherent desire of the human being. The usual naysayers who automatically knee jerk the old kindly and understanding theme of non-judgemental cliches are their enemy- not their friend. One day these youths will wake up and find youth has gone and nobody wants them. Shrivelled and old.

79 posted on 02/09/2009 6:47:11 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: LostInBayport
When Ann Coulter said just this on The View, even Elizabeth Hasselbeck joined the three rejects from Frankenstein's harem that she co-hosts the show with to shout Ann down.

Did you watch the video? Elizabeth didn't say anything, let alone try to shout Ann down.

Seesh. what a chav.

80 posted on 02/09/2009 6:52:09 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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