Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
ping!
About as convincing as Obama’s birth certificate.
Stick to religion.
This moron is the archtypical loser!
No wonder the church in England is falling apart; what could the church be for without God?
Are arguing the earth is only 4,000 ish years old?
Dr Nigel Leaves would fit in well with the Obamination.
Sounds like a person who is going to be really surprised about one nanosecond after he dies.
Atheists exist all alone in a limited Newtonian universe...everyone else lives in a Quantum universe of limitless possibility.
“No scientist has any alternative or better ‘birth certificate’ for the earth or the universe. All scientific estimates of earth and universe age require a whole lot of assumptions. The key assumption is uniformitarianism, which is atheism disguised as science, because it assumes no miraculous interventions in history.4 Christians have no reason to accept, and every reason to reject, atheistic assumptions about the universe. “
Using a written record that was transcribed from oral traditions is a dubious ‘birth certificate’. But that is beside the point. The age of the universe and the earth itself and all life on earth are determined by theories backed up by observable and repeatable evidence. Relying on stories written in colorful prose based off of old stories does not prove or disprove anything, it only puts question on those who rely upon it to deny scientific information put before them.
Denying science is a bigger folly than denying god. Saying gravity doesn’t exist doesn’t mean you won’t fall off the cliff.
And the Bible is likewise clear on matters of life, faith, morality, and devotion to God:
The only REAL question is whether a man or a culture accept the Living Word as authoritative -- revealing the Law of Holy God ---
Likewise promising -- in Christ alone -- the purchase of mercy, and forgiveness for all of man's transgressions against that extraordinary revelation of law--
Finally the provision of daily grace that imparts the Holy Spirit into the hearts of all who accept His terms of life -- enabling us to enjoy the coommunal relationship --
And enjoy the blessed promise of eternal life.
It's really a simple clear choice we all make -- in favor of against -- proactively or by default.
Who is on the Lord's side?
I like to point out that people today assume that all the people in ancient times were dullards. While many people were, many people today are just as simple. But then and now, it is not the simpletons that make history.
For example, it is now known that the Pentateuch was created as a poem or song. Poetry evolved in preliterate times as a mnemonic device for the accurate retention of information. But illiterate does not mean ignorant or stupid.
For example, some of the most complex philosophical questions ever devised were integrated into the Pentateuch. In his brief conversation between Moses and JHVH, Moses cut to the chase and asked the question whose answer has dominated philosophy ever since.
“I Am that I Am” (Ehyeh asher Ehyeh).
Volumes have been written about the consequences of that single statement. Martin Buber, perhaps the most influential Jewish philosopher of the 20th Century wrote his masterwork “I and Thou” to explain some of the significance of this statement. It is an easy read, and devastatingly hard to fully understand.
When published in 1923, it made a huge splash in the theological community, then was promptly forgotten by the vast majority who just didn’t get it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_and_thou
With that statement, JHVH identifies as a singularity. This means that JHVH can’t have a name, because there is nothing to compare to JHVH. Not with size, shape, color, smell, sound. Anything that can be labeled cannot be JHVH. There cannot be two JHVH.
In turn, according to Kabbalah, this explains the origins of the universe. JHVH wanted to see if there was anything that isn’t JHVH, so JHVH created the universe as a mirror.
Amusing debate.
Note how it’s always the God of Christianity they blast when attacking creation.
You never hear of them slamming the Muslim theory, whatever the heck it is.
Try the Native American theories about foxes and eagles and crawling out of the ground creation stories. Attack those why don’t you, weenies.
You know, diversity.
“Once you let go of the Bible as history, all Christian doctrine begins to disintegrate.”
If you read the bible as history I think you miss the point. When Jesus fed several thousand people with fish from a basket he wasn’t trying to tell us about himself. It is beside the point whether he actually did it or not, the point of the story is about faith, not about the ability of Jesus to perform miracles.
For which he offers, nor can he offer any proof.
Well DUH!
Where’s the “Aw Jeeze” guy when you need him.
This creationist stuff is a good part of the reason conservatives keep losing elections.
Acts 17:31 is a statement, not a fact.