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Abu Dhabi to pay circumcision for converts
IMRA/Jordan Times ^ | 2-6=-09

Posted on 02/08/2009 2:17:47 PM PST by SJackson

JORDAN TIMES 8 Feb.'09:"Abu Dhabi to pay circumcision for converts"

DUBAI (AFP) - Social security in the wealthy emirate of Abu Dhabi will cover the cost of circumcising men who convert to Islam, Al Bayan daily reported Saturday. The health authority in the capital of the United Arab Emirates said the government-backed insurance firm, Daman, has included circumcision operations in existing insurance policies for new Muslims, the paper said.

Converts will have to present a certificate, issued by an Abu Dhabi court, attesting to their conversion. Authorities in the UAE, where expatriates represent more than 80 per cent of an estimated population of 6.4 million, announce every year that hundreds of people convert to Islam, especially among South Asian labourers.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abudhabi; asgodmadehim; benefits; circumcision; conversions; healthcare; islam; muslims; uae
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1 posted on 02/08/2009 2:17:47 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

I don’t know why anybody would not want to be circumsized that’s just wierd. Weirdos.


2 posted on 02/08/2009 2:18:59 PM PST by exist
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To: SJackson

No co-pay?


3 posted on 02/08/2009 2:23:13 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: exist

Circumcision is what’s weird. And un-natural.


4 posted on 02/08/2009 2:24:32 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: SJackson

Making womans hand bags with the excess tips? To make the bag larger just rub it!


5 posted on 02/08/2009 2:25:48 PM PST by duckman (Jesus I trust in You. Mary take over)
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To: SJackson
If they were stoopid enough to convert to Islam they should have their heads circumcised -- at the neck!

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6 posted on 02/08/2009 2:27:46 PM PST by JCG
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To: SJackson

Oh yeah, that’s a heck of an enticement.

Refuse to join mohammedanism and we’ll cut off your head!

Join mohammedanism and we’ll ...um... just take your foreskin!.


7 posted on 02/08/2009 2:27:51 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
Circumcision is what’s weird. And un-natural.

Yeah. For dogs and such.

8 posted on 02/08/2009 2:39:02 PM PST by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: SJackson

Little Willy sez that no Muslim is gettin’ near him with no knife. He don’t wanna be beheaded.


9 posted on 02/08/2009 2:42:32 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: SJackson

Yes, but will they pay the rabbi and the moyle?


10 posted on 02/08/2009 2:42:56 PM PST by Carl from Marietta
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To: humblegunner
Yeah. For dogs and such.

For any living being with a penis. Permanent mutilation is not natural.

11 posted on 02/08/2009 2:48:25 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

LOL!

Your skull skin is a little tight.


12 posted on 02/08/2009 2:54:17 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Give me Liberty or give me something to aim at)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmbEuRzlhIs


13 posted on 02/08/2009 2:56:20 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Give me Liberty or give me something to aim at)
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To: mamelukesabre
I can only guess that you do not want to confront the fact that, assuming you are circumcised, you have been mutilated. I tend to agree with most of the following expanation for circumcision.

Only 23 cultures in our sample practice circumcision, and they tend to share a particular economy and form of social organization. These societies are all advanced horticulturalists or nomadic pastoralists - such as the Tiv of Nigeria or the Kazakh of Russia - that share a common political structure. They are composed of what we call strong fraternal-interest groups, related males who are united to pursue common political objectives. Because of the strength of these large groups, kinsmen are especially successful in defending property, allocating resources, and negotiating explicit agreements over women and wealth. Women are pawns in such societies, exchanged in kinship bargains and marriages.

Male circumcisions are a public demonstration by fathers to elder kinsmen of their loyalty to the fraternal-interest group. The greatest sign of loyalty is to entrust one's son's reproductive ability to someone else, and it is precisely because the ritual involves this risk that it is such a powerful emotional symbol.

In societies that practice circumcision, the obedience of fathers and sons is of particular economic and political importance. A father who leaves the fraternal-interest group, taking with him the reproductive power of his sons and of his sons' sons, represents an immense threat to the continuing ability of the group to defend itself and its valuable resources. Among tribes that lack fraternal-interest groups, such as the Mbuti hunter/gatherers, individuals break off from their kin groups frequently; but the departure of a son's family is no loss of power or wealth for the father, since they control nothing of great value in the first place. Only when military and political power depends on continual expansion of males in the father's line does the departure of a son and his reproductive assets represent a major political crisis.

There is a reason these societies perform ritual mutilations on the penis, the organ of procreation and power, and not on the ear, or finger, or elbow. In societies that practice circumcision, the obedience of fathers and sons is of particular economic and political importance.

The ancient Hebrews had the exact form of economic and political organization in which male circumcision (and female virginity tests at marriage) is most likely to occur today. Indeed, the story of Genesis is a story of fissions and feuds, of a growing tribe that needed unity and the strength of its male defenders to survive in a hostile human and ecological environment.

Modern Jews often defend circumcision by arguing that the custom, like the pork taboo, protected Jews against disease and illness whether they were aware of it or not. But the ancient Jews knew exactly what circumcision was: a loyalty oath, a political deal.

http://www.noharmm.org/paige.htm

14 posted on 02/08/2009 3:00:09 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

That is total and unmittigated shullbit.


15 posted on 02/08/2009 3:04:41 PM PST by Carl from Marietta
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To: Carl from Marietta

Why, just because you think so?


16 posted on 02/08/2009 3:06:58 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
Modern Jews often defend circumcision by arguing that the custom, like the pork taboo, protected Jews against disease and illness whether they were aware of it or not. But the ancient Jews knew exactly what circumcision was: a loyalty oath, a political deal.

Good grief, it's not about health, it's a Commandment, sorry to deflate your source.

Same with pork, when your source puts up a Jews need to eat pork website, he's still off base.

So we're clear, my son was circumcised, my grandson, only one, also.

Commandment thing.

You're accusing me, my daughter and son in law of mutilation?

17 posted on 02/08/2009 3:08:23 PM PST by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

If you think I’m going to read that much text about penises, you’re a fruitcake.


18 posted on 02/08/2009 3:08:53 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Give me Liberty or give me something to aim at)
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To: SJackson

Commandment? You mean, someone from the sky literally spoke to a person on earth, and laser-etched said commandments on stone slabs?

Have a nice time trying to prove it.


19 posted on 02/08/2009 3:10:07 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: mamelukesabre

It’s not about penises, it’s about the origins of circumcision.

Thanks for confirming your fear of confronting the fact that you might have been mutilated.


20 posted on 02/08/2009 3:11:05 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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