Posted on 02/08/2009 11:43:05 AM PST by rabscuttle385
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said on Sunday he'll vote against President Barack Obama’s stimulus bill, calling the legislation “generational theft” in an interview on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
“I thought we were going to have change," he said, in a shot at Obama's campaign slogan, "and that change meant we work together. This is a setback. This is a setback to all Americans because you promised Americans we’d work in a more bipartisan fashion, and that certainly is not the case in this bill,” McCain said.
McCain said the bill would saddle Americans with billions in future debt, and contained protectionist provisions that could be damaging to the economy.
“We’re going to amass the largest debt in the history of this country by any measurement, and we’re going to ask our kids and grandkids to pay for it,” McCain said.
“I know we’re in trouble. I know America needs a stimulus, we need tax cuts, we need to spend money on infrastructure and other programs that will put people to work. But this is not it.”
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True.
I am convinced that was by design.
[...] nor Fred.
Fred I couldn't care less about. He's a Bakerite, right alongside of Bush and McCain. I did and would rail against him almost as much as McCain himself. We need no more Baker Moderates, no more moderates at all- and that includes Palin and Jindal, btw...
Then you need to pay closer attention.
I agree RE: Fred, and likely Jindal, But you are off the edge of the slate on Palin.
Palin is a practical Christian conservative, very much like Reagan, and like him, will always be able to fulfill large chunks of the conservative adgenda, that the ‘moderates’ lack even a desire to fulfill.
Amen, Darkwolf. No need to pile on when the guy’s saying exactly what ought to be said.
Really? Care to show me a tax cut?
I call myself a Reaganite as well, and am probably more in line with him than you ever were or will be. He's the one who said something like don't let the perfect get in the way of the good. Sort of like not letting the 1%ers get in the way of what's right.
And from now on I'll take some advice of another poster on this thread and not try to talk with idiots like you. Don't bother. Your posts aren't worth reading.
**“I thought we were going to have change,” he said, in a shot at Obama’s campaign slogan, “and that change meant we work together. This is a setback.**
McCain calling Obama NUTS.
“And when the Right ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy.”
Some of the same ones that moaned and groaned through the entire campaign are furiously working to keep Obama and the Dem Party from driving America into into socialistic hell.
So third party and Ron Paul supporters what are you doing?
You are to afraid to even identify the party you belong to and what it stands for..
Now come on. I dont like or trust McCain anymore than you but these cutting one liners against the rats warm my heart(this is the most fun we have had in years.). The rats are in a corner.
Google is your friend.
As I said, including a few tax cuts with hundreds of billion in spending does not make it a good plan.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-obama-taxes14-2009jan14,0,7093997.story
That's very good. Perhaps one addition might be:
...he made it ok to again love America.
Sorry. It doesn't wash. I will ask you (who I know to be a strong Conservative, btw) the same question asked of every candidate ever to run as a Republican: On her record, not her rhetoric, how can Sara Palin unite the three pillars of Conservatism?
I can easily defend against anything you might attend.
She is not a blue-blood social conservative in that she does not toe the red-letter Pro-Life line, and she is less than solid wrt the homosexual agenda. Her views are fine, in the libertarian sense, and I certainly welcome my Libertarian FRiends to our cause, but not as the standard bearer. She will (and did) split the Christian Right.
She is certainly not a fiscal conservative. She likes to cut taxes, but everywhere she goes, people are paying more when she is done than when she started. She likes big public projects. Her involvement in the brazen, pro-rated, confiscatory windfall profits tax on oil companies is what she brags the most about, it is the main key to her success, and it is decidedly *not* Conservative or Republican in nature. It is an abomination, and one that she campaigned against on a national level.
Her foreign policy and military experience is by far her weakest pillar. It is nice that she has a son in the military, and that helps, but that is hardly the sort of battle hardened experience that the military prefer. She is hawkish enugh, but without any deep and abiding roots in the Diplomatic and/or Military establishment, she is hard pressed to prove anything she might promise.
Add to that the things she has said out of her own mouth while on the campaign trail that no Conservative would ever utter, and she is not worthy of the title. All-in-all, a moderate with libertarian leanings, and the strong spirit you can find in any Western (or Southern) woman.
Perhaps that's why she holds less magic for me- Strong willed, moose-shootin' babes are plentiful here. You can't hardly swing a dead cat without hitting one (and woe to you if you do). Most of the redneck gals I know grew up much the same way.
She is a deal-breaker for the first chair. I could become more excited about her if she were under the tutelage of Reagan Conservatives, maybe as second chair under a serious rock-ribbed Conservative for a couple terms to learn the ropes... But I will not be voting for her otherwise.
Care to find a reliable source concerning the tax "cuts" the bill now contains?
McCain had a 10% REAL tax cut for corporations. Yet people honestly claim to see no difference between him and the Dems. Lots of people clueless these days.
A world of difference.
Both stink.
McCain should have gotten behind Demint’s bill.
It might stink. But to think there's not going to be a bill is to live in la-la land where a lot of conservatives are living these days.
Demint himself knows that a $450 B bill is better than an $850 B bill.
Yeah riiight. The "1%ers", the "purists" are the ones here who will not be swayed from Reagan Conservatism. You guys gave us the names. I just take them as a compliment. And as to "nobody listening", it is the Republicans who are not being listened to- down to 26% national membership, an all-time low if I am not mistaken- Certainly the lowest we've seen since Reagan... So get down off your high horse.
I call myself a Reaganite as well, and am probably more in line with him than you ever were or will be.
You can call yourself whatever you like. Go look up Reagan Conservatism by it's definition and relieve yourself of your ignorance.
He's the one who said something like don't let the perfect get in the way of the good. Sort of like not letting the 1%ers get in the way of what's right.
It's funny how big-tenters try to pick through Reagan quotes to suit themselves. He also said:
We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. - Ronald Reagan, 1965
Reagan was all about principle, and he was speakng of the "big tenters" of that day.
And from now on I'll take some advice of another poster on this thread and not try to talk with idiots like you. Don't bother. Your posts aren't worth reading.
~meh.
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