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McCain: Stimulus 'a setback to change' ["I thought we were going to have change"]
Politico ^ | Josh Kraushaar

Posted on 02/08/2009 11:43:05 AM PST by rabscuttle385

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said on Sunday he'll vote against President Barack Obama’s stimulus bill, calling the legislation “generational theft” in an interview on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

I thought we were going to have change," he said, in a shot at Obama's campaign slogan, "and that change meant we work together. This is a setback. This is a setback to all Americans because you promised Americans we’d work in a more bipartisan fashion, and that certainly is not the case in this bill,” McCain said.

McCain said the bill would saddle Americans with billions in future debt, and contained protectionist provisions that could be damaging to the economy.

“We’re going to amass the largest debt in the history of this country by any measurement, and we’re going to ask our kids and grandkids to pay for it,” McCain said.

“I know we’re in trouble. I know America needs a stimulus, we need tax cuts, we need to spend money on infrastructure and other programs that will put people to work. But this is not it.”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhostimulus; change; isreallythatdumb; mccain; mccaintruthfile; mcqueeg; moron; retarded; rino; senile; shouldbepresident; socialistagenda; totalrino; vichy
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To: Lakeshark

Yeah, McCain has been wonderful on this. He formed his own little gang again and cut DeMint’s conservative opposition bill off at the knees. Which provided Collins, Snowe and Spectre the cover they needed to defect. WONDERFUL!!!


101 posted on 02/08/2009 1:42:20 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Lakeshark; roamer_1
When he says something good, at least admit it.

Repeating the obvious—something that others have been saying publicly for quite some time—isn't exactly a laudable thing.

In fact, shame on McCain for not saying such things sooner. Instead, he acted like a dumbass and beelined for the bailout, and now he has the nerve to whine because his mini-Socialist stimulus got rejected by his "friends" in the Democrat Party.

McCain is a Grade A idiot.

102 posted on 02/08/2009 1:43:06 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: WheresMyBailout
Notwithstanding the possibility we will have an outstanding nominee in 2012, I wish John McCain was in the White House right now.

Who says? Who says we'll have an outstanding nominee in 2012? We may, we may not. We may have outstanding candidates in 2012 who choose to sit it out till 2016.

With all of the heat that McCain rightfully got for supporting TARP, at least TARP wasn’t a handout and there’s a strong possibility it will be paid back

The government took our money, and voted to give it to private companies, and all we have is a "strong possibility it will be paid back"? In light of the fact that we now know that those assets were overvalued by tens of billions, it sure looks like a handout to me.

TARP was in no way conservative and had nothing to do with the free market. Nothing at all.

McCain's (and every other Republican's) vote for TARP pushed the GOP that much farther to the left. The ramifications of having voted for TARP will echo down for years.

And never forget that before TARP, McCain was for the bailout of Bear-Sterns and for the bailout of mortgage holders (to the tune of 300 Billion dollars or so.)

103 posted on 02/08/2009 1:45:57 PM PST by mountainbunny
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To: TigersEye
Freereign has the quote from him I liked. It's the one being reported, and he'r right in that regard. You have a problem with that?

Now kindly educate me on his "gang" that undercut DeMint. If he actually did as you say, I'll be happy to condemn it.

104 posted on 02/08/2009 1:46:21 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: FreeReign
“We’re going to amass the largest debt in the history of this country by any measurement, and we’re going to ask our kids and grandkids to pay for it,”

Actually, what is happening now is far short of what happened in October. Between the bailout and the Fed, over $3 trillion up in smoke. Among the cheerleaders then were the RINO administration and senators, JM right along with them... It is more than hypocrisy for McCain to have been *for* that one (the second, larger, pork-filled one), and against this one.

105 posted on 02/08/2009 1:47:25 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Your post, once again, proves my point........... you just need to constantly piss and moan even when he said something right.


106 posted on 02/08/2009 1:48:25 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: rabscuttle385
McCain is a Grade A idiot.

Senator McCain was the least desirable choice of all the Republican candidates running in last year's Republican primaries.

He is far too willing to play to the media and he caves in to Democrat agendas far too often.

He is light years better than Obama, and his election would have been far better for the country.

To your "point":

Any 20-something Computer Science major daring to call an American war hero an "idiot" is the scum of the earth.

Got me, scumboy?

107 posted on 02/08/2009 1:49:11 PM PST by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: rabscuttle385
McCain is a Grade A idiot.

No, that would be you.

You just helped to get abortions restored overseas, a first-class murderer freed, millions of new gov't employees on the dole, and the continuing chairmanship of Barney Frank on the national banking committee.

You are a good example of a shining first-class, 5 star idiot.

108 posted on 02/08/2009 1:50:55 PM PST by Justice (Never trust a Russian. They are cheats and Liars.)
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To: Lakeshark
The US Senate Republican rival stimulus plan [McCain/Graham Gang of 10 alert]

FWIW education is a personal responsibility.

109 posted on 02/08/2009 1:51:22 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Chunga; roamer_1; TigersEye
Any 20-something Computer Science major daring to call an American war hero an "idiot" is the scum of the earth.

I don't give a crap what he is. His vote on the bailout in the fall alone qualifies him as "a treasonous bastard" par excellence.

110 posted on 02/08/2009 1:52:25 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Justice; rabscuttle385
You just helped to get abortions restored overseas, a first-class murderer freed, millions of new gov't employees on the dole, and the continuing chairmanship of Barney Frank on the national banking committee.

You are a good example of a shining first-class, 5 star idiot.

Genius-boy will probably have a hard time understanding your point.

111 posted on 02/08/2009 1:54:00 PM PST by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: Justice
You just helped to get abortions restored overseas, ...

And your point is?

#76

112 posted on 02/08/2009 1:55:20 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye
You intimate somewhere in here it says McCain was giving cover to the R's that went to the dark side?

I liked Demint's plan better, but McCain is not the reason the others went to the dark side.

FWIW education is a personal responsibility

113 posted on 02/08/2009 1:55:42 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Chunga
Any 20-something Computer Science major daring to call an American war hero an "idiot" is the scum of the earth.

People have called him worse.

John McCain, you treasonous bastard, I challenge you or any of your traitorous cohorts... (thread by Jim Robinson)

114 posted on 02/08/2009 1:57:38 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Lakeshark
I liked Demint's plan better, but McCain is not the reason the others went to the dark side.

Oh, of course not. Putting up a competing bill had nothing to do with dividing the GOP and diluting support for a more conservative bill. /s

Wanna buy some land in Florida?

115 posted on 02/08/2009 2:00:10 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: rabscuttle385

You are wasting your time replying to these people. They don’t care what the truth is or perhaps they couldn’t find their arses with both hands.


116 posted on 02/08/2009 2:03:14 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: jla

You make a good point. My hesitation, at first, to putting Reagan at the top was that had it not been for Washington, Lincoln, and Jefferson, there very possibly could have been no US. But, upon further thinking, Reagan did not save America ... he saved the world. This is much more important than any economic policies he pursued (though his economic policies are what got him victory in the Cold War).

Here is what I wrote about Reagan ... let me know what you think:

1. Ronald Reagan (Won the Cold War. Brought economic sanity for the first time. Earlier Presidents paved the way for a President Reagan to come to power. Yet, Reagan ensured that the world would not see a nuclear World War III and is the father of the unified free world we see today.)


117 posted on 02/08/2009 2:03:21 PM PST by WheresMyBailout
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To: rabscuttle385
qualifies him as "a treasonous bastard" par excellence

You people sit home and allow an anti-military, William Ayers-loving, flaming Marxist in the WH and fail to see that you're the ones with treasonous views.

Really rich.

118 posted on 02/08/2009 2:04:43 PM PST by what's up
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To: FreeReign
That's the present danger. Let's see if you're smart enough not to divert attention away from it this time.

That is not the present danger. The present danger is the lack of opposition to Liberalism, and once again McSh*tferbrains is running an offensive pattern *for* the Liberals.

It is he who spearheads the moderate message, trying to take the thunder away from the *real* Conservative alternative as offered by DeMint, who is quite in unison with the House Conservatives, I am certain.

As long as McCain is willingly put forward as the "alternative" the Conservative plan sees no light, and Obama and the Dems (when they reconcile with McCain and the Bakerites) will gain praise for their compromises.

You are being played.

119 posted on 02/08/2009 2:04:52 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: what's up
With a bunch of tax cuts, including corporate ones.

Obama's stimulus package included tax cuts, too.
That doesn't make it a good plan.

120 posted on 02/08/2009 2:04:58 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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