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New Octuplets Were Leftover IVF Embryos, Mom Faces Anger for not Aborting
LifeSiteNews ^ | February 3, 2009 | Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on 02/04/2009 1:02:18 PM PST by MountainLoop

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To: utahagen
I agree 100%. As an abortion opponent, I resent this woman’s attempt to make her daughter seem like a heroine who cared only about her unborn children. This story has really nothing to do with abortion, since no unmarried woman just wakes up pregnant with EIGHT babies. This woman made many calculated, immoral, and bizarre choices BEFORE she got pregnant. I will give her zero credit for not having had a few of her children killed for the sake of the others.

Common sense is such a rare thing, Hat's Off!!! To YOU!!!

41 posted on 02/04/2009 1:49:50 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: org.whodat

link?


42 posted on 02/04/2009 1:51:48 PM PST by absolootezer0 (thank God for Chicago: makes Detroit look wholesome by comparison.)
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To: MountainLoop
No way. If you help me find my keys we can drive out.
43 posted on 02/04/2009 1:57:09 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: MountainLoop

I call B.S.


44 posted on 02/04/2009 2:04:50 PM PST by Carley (Remember when we had a real President)
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To: absolootezer0

Good point!
Everyone here seems to be in high dudgeon, but I thought this was such a “pro-life” website. Hmmm!


45 posted on 02/04/2009 2:06:06 PM PST by Constitution Day (Big Brotha Is Watching You)
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To: massgopguy; Badeye

Our local radio show said she got a big insurance settlement after being hurt at work, so yeah, you all paid for it through your insurance premiums.


46 posted on 02/04/2009 2:07:15 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Cicero

My sentiments exactly.


47 posted on 02/04/2009 2:09:50 PM PST by MountainLoop
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To: lilylangtree

I won’t be surprised to see her suing the medical professionals somewhere down the road, for their lack of judgement, not trying to change her mind, etc., etc. She’ll probably get millions under their malpractice coverage.


48 posted on 02/04/2009 2:16:00 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: MountainLoop
Most are not scorning for not having a selective reduction. Whatever her reason , IMO it
was the right decision after she became pregnant,to carry them all. I can understand wanting to give them all a chance but why have so many fertilized to begin with? Why not give them a chance one or two at a time, after she is able to work and financially care for them? Lot's of questions.
49 posted on 02/04/2009 2:17:43 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Badeye

‘Got a mirror?’

I had to think about this for thirty seconds...you gotta be kidding me, right?

Tax money?”

Preemies are eligible for SSI from the moment of birth until their deaths.
She hit the Taxpayer jackpot for $4800 per month-—totally tax free. %600/kid/month.

Don’t know which administration passed this law, but I am more than a little suspicious of the Clintoooon admin.


50 posted on 02/04/2009 2:27:30 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

She had 6 kids, including a pair of 2 year old twins ?”

Yessireee—oldest is 7.


51 posted on 02/04/2009 2:28:56 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: absolootezer0

all original batch, same sperm donor. they take alot of eggs incase it takes a couple tries for them to take.”

How many eggs a month does a woman produce?

She has 14 kids...isn’t that over a year’s worth of eggs?


52 posted on 02/04/2009 2:31:09 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: MrB

If this was an affront to God why did He in His wisdom put in place the underlying rules (science) that allows for this procedure? One in five pregnancies miscarries. Why did not that happen? Why did the pregnancy go full term when in most cases some do not implant? You just might want to leave judgement to Him. For it is His.


53 posted on 02/04/2009 2:36:44 PM PST by First against the wall
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To: MountainLoop

It’s California. This is her hobby. It’s self-actualization. At least she’s “into” something. sarc/


54 posted on 02/04/2009 2:47:36 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: ridesthemiles
How many eggs a month does a woman produce?

Generally, one. Occasionally women will produce two.

She must have undergone hormone treatment to stimulate her ovaries to produce more eggs than normal, which were then extracted and joined with a sperm cell.

I want to know how often one stimulated cycle produces 14 eggs or more? Usually only the eggs which are the best size are used and only the best embryos are used for placement in the uterus. She has 14 children. How many eggs did she begin with? How many times did she do this to get so many eggs and then embryos?

55 posted on 02/04/2009 3:26:20 PM PST by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I fault her. I also fault the people who made this possible for her.

I believe it is possible to perform IVF in a careful, moral way. Unfortunately, it is very expensive and may endanger the mother.

It is this. NEVER create more embroys than a mother is willing to use. If a couple wishes to have 2 children and is reluctant to care for more than that, then only take two eggs and only create two embryos. If neither "works", then go through the whole process again.

56 posted on 02/04/2009 3:40:47 PM PST by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: Dianna

I don’t have a problem with your suggestions. We will probably find out that someone breached the ethics of this field in a major way with this patient. When that is determined, I hope the jerk who did this winds up flipping hamburgers for a living.


57 posted on 02/04/2009 3:45:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: FBI cuts off CAIR for contact with Hamas, Obama wants to talk to.)
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To: the long march
"This whole story doesn’t pass the smell test. I want to know their nationality ( perhaps their religion as well). How does one afford IVF when one is unemployed, living with mom and dad, and divorced? There isn’t a health insurance program around that will cover that. This just is so tainted"

I heard she went to a fertility clinic in Mexico - don't remember where I heard that. Could that be possible?

58 posted on 02/04/2009 5:16:41 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: jackibutterfly

Sounds compatible with the ethics involved in this dog and pony show, doesn’t it?

Along with the advice to “take your high-risk pregnancy a las Estados Unidos. Let those suckers pay for it.”

IIRC, she was delivered by caesarian surgery by a team of about four dozen medical professionals.


59 posted on 02/04/2009 7:58:19 PM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Drill now drill hard drill often and give old Gaia a cigarette afterwards she deserves it." HerrBlu)
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To: ridesthemiles; Dianna
How many eggs a month does a woman produce?

the correct answer would be zero. women are born with a couple million eggs, most die off as she ages, some are lost through normal ovulation.
60 posted on 02/05/2009 4:03:41 AM PST by absolootezer0 (thank God for Chicago: makes Detroit look wholesome by comparison.)
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