Posted on 02/04/2009 4:43:35 AM PST by radar101
Mexicans say Barnett violated their civil rights
BISBEE — A trial started Monday in federal court in Tucson against a Douglas rancher and others charged with conspiring to violate the civil rights of some illegal immigrants along the U.S.-Mexico border.
The defendants of the lawsuit are Roger Barnett, his wife, Barbara, and his brother, Donald. The plaintiffs are five women and 11 men who were in a wash in Douglas in 2004. The trial is taking place before Judge John Roll in U.S. District Court and is scheduled to run through Feb. 13.
The Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund is representing the plaintiffs. According to a statement from that group, the plaintiffs were accosted by Roger Barnett, who was armed with a gun and accompanied by a large dog.
“Roger Barnett held the group captive at gunpoint, threatening that his dog would attack and that he would shoot anyone who tried to leave. During the encounter, Barnett kicked a plaintiff as she was lying, unarmed, on the ground,” states the press release.
Pima County political activist Roy Warden issued a press release in which he said groups, including the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps and Arizonans for Immigration Control, will rally in support of Barnett in front of the court today and other days.
Herald/Review reporter Jonathon Shacat can be reached at 515-4693 or by e-mail at jonathon.shacat@bisbeereview.net.
I take it they were not only illegally in this country but trespassing on this family’s property. The defendants sound like they acted with great restraint here. A lot more than I would have exercised.
FROM A CITIZEN WATCHING THE TRIAL:
First Day at the trial was for jury selection.... interesting process.
The trial started with 65 jurors being brought in to the courtroom, with 18 seated in the jurybox for questions from the judge. The idea wasto start with 18, each side could disqualify 4, ending up with a jury of 10. Roger’s attorneys brought in two gals as jury consultants to help decide who to eliminate. I made my picks and after lunch, the lawyers had a pow-wow and the decision of who to eliminate was made.
Interestingly, 4 of the jurors were dismissed when the question was asked by the judge..... “ Do any of you have a problem with the fact that even though someone is illegally in this country, they still have a right to bring a lawsuit.?” Interesting because 3 our of 4 were Hispanics!
Kind of blows away the idea that Hispanics would be for illegal immigration. Ifeel we ended up with a pretty good jury.... about50-50 male and female. One Hispanic gal’s husband works for Wackenhut... I figured they would eliminate her but they didn’t .... along with a male computer programmer who belongs to the NRA.
I think there were about 10 of the Plaintiffs in the courtroom.... a couple more will show up today..... I think they couldn’t find four. The Illegal Alien’s evidently were accompanied by two US Marshalls.... in the courtroom at the request of the judge. The judge cautioned the jurors about potential demonstrations outside the courthouse today and I believe the Marshalls will be there for possibility that something would occur inside the courtroom.
The Plantiffs’s lawyers went first..... the usual BS about these are human beings.... Roger makes sport about hunting human beings..... they all feared for their lives and have had daily bouts of Post Traumatic Syndrome since Roger pointed a gun at their heads and threatened to kill them all (which a high paid psychatrist will testify to). They also stressed how poor the the Plaintiffs are, coming here for a “better way of life”..... at the same time stressing that this lawsuit “is not about money”..... its about punishing Roger’s behavior.
The Plaintiff’s attorney’s opening statements seemed pursuasive at first..... what a “bad ass” Roger is. He was maintaining a”militia”, hates anybody with Latino decent, harbors “racial animus”, has a vicious dog, speaks extremely foul language, and maintains his ranch as a compound for the “sport” of hunting people...... and the plaintiffs, who were just out for a Sunday afternoon stroll, were accosted by Roger for no cause....and he brutally accosted and traumatized them. Roger, Don & Barbara had long conspired to violate the Plaintiff’s civil rights... and the rights of all Latinos that crossed their paths.
Hell.... I would have convicted Roger at that point!
Well, you can imagine my delight when it was Roger’s attorney’s turn. They had BIG poster pictures of all the garbage on Roger’s land........ big poster pictures of large groups of aliens “posing & smiling” for pictures with Roger (he is such a bad ass.... its a game to
them).... big poster pictures of LARGE stacks
Roger’s attorneys then proceeded to portray Roger as the victim of a conspiracy.... a conspiracy by the Plaintiff’s attorneys to “take Rogerout”, because the lawsuit was “all about money”.... money that the drug cartels and the Mexican Government are losing every time Roger turns a group in to the Border Patrol...... $20k in just that one group.... over 1 million for the 12,000 aliens Roger claims to have turned in to the Border Patrol. In one fell swoop, Rogers’ attorneys planted the idea with the jurists of another conspiracy going on in this trial which will put the Plainitff’s attorney’s on trial themselves during the trial. Brilliant !
And you could imagine my delight when Roger’s attorney responded to the ideal that the Plaintiffs were so traumatized by their 15 minutes with Roger while waiting for the BP agent to show up (who had been tracking the group and was within a mile of the party), that they...TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THE TRAUMA OF BEING ROBBED AT GUNPOINT THE
NIGHT BEFORE... AND THE WOMEN IN THE GROUP BEING RAPED BY BANDIDOS !
Stay tuned folk.... is going to be an interesting duel.
From down in the trenches......
This is the first problem.
They are not CITIZENS and as such do not have rights.
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There have been cases where federal judges have granted them civil rights. The precedents are there due to liberal judges legislating from the bench. Making up the law as they go.
The biggest trauma I see here is that an American is being forced to pay lawyers and spend his time in court to defend himself for defending his property.
How does this man recoup what this trial is costing him.? He doesnt. He was not only defending his property he was defending Americans. Which is more than our government is doing.
Ping.
It just slow down the dance for socialism and the NWO.
Here’s an example of what happens when Americans defend their property and country from invaders:
http://forums.realpolice.net/showthread.php?t=38364
IIRC, if someone is trespassing on your property, you cannot stop them from leaving. It is considered kidnapping. That may just be a state law in NC though.
“”FROM A CITIZEN WATCHING THE TRIAL:””
Super - Please keep us to date here at FR....
In CA at least, it would be a legal private persons arrest for trespassing.
You have the same right in AZ, even more, You are allowed to use Deadly Force in any case whereby you are witnessing a FELONY violation of LAW. Alien Smuggling is a FELONY.
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ping
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Townhall ^ | Dec. 5, 2008 | Sharla Ishmael
Joe Johnson’s family has lived and worked on the same property near Columbus, N.M., for almost 100 years. “Our grandfather came here in 1918, right behind Pancho Villa,” he says proudly. Yet he also admits, “If it wasn’t home, I would move away from it.” The Johnson ranch lies right up against the Mexican border, and illegal immigration has turned what was already a hard way to make a living on drought—plagued rangeland into a nightmare of stolen cattle, broken water lines,ruined fences and grass fi res. “In 2005, we had 500-plus people crossing our ranch every day,” explains housewife,...
Thanks for that account, radar101.
“One Hispanic gal’s husband works for Wackenhut... I figured they would eliminate her but they didn’t”
Wackenhut....the private prison system that makes big bucks storing illegal aliens...and gives out some of the biggest campaign contributions for their open border politicos...like John McCain.
“The biggest trauma I see here is that an American is being forced to pay lawyers and spend his time in court to defend himself for defending his property.
How does this man recoup what this trial is costing him.? He doesnt. He was not only defending his property he was defending Americans. Which is more than our government is doing.”
You nailed it.
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