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To: BrerLion

You’ve almost twisted the issue around enough to fit the Alinsky methodology, but you missed a thing or two: Polarik has shown why the document is to be considered a forgery. You tried to twist it around to ‘can’t prove a negative’ but in reality an expert like Polarik can show why it is not a valid document. And his assessment has been seconded by an FBI document expert now retired who has also stated the document is unacceptable as proof of anything! Go read a few of obamanoid ‘mlo’ posts reagrding the agreement of the now registered with the Keyes suit retired FBI expert azs she affirmed that Polarik’s work has shown the docuemtn to be suspect.


323 posted on 02/06/2009 4:24:11 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks, MHG. The irony is that I'm the only one who has a real, paper COLB to show for my efforts. I also made a video showing exactly how I scanned it into my computer. I also demonstrated why there is absolutely no excuse for Obama or Factcheck to (a) make a crappy scan that does not show the Seal and both folds, (b) scan only the front side, and not the back where the Seal, date stamp, and signature stamp are shown, and (c) make one, and only one, scan.

Thousands of people criticized the Obama Campaign and Factcheck for failing to do the above. A digital photo is also not the same thing as a digital scan, so that argument is moot.

If Obama had a real, paper COLB as I do, then he would have made better scans. Or, at least one more scan. I've got over 60, front and back.

bottom line: Obama does not have anything that looks like what was posted.

325 posted on 02/06/2009 5:18:29 PM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: MHGinTN
You’ve almost twisted the issue around enough to fit the Alinsky methodology, but you missed a thing or two: Polarik has shown why the document is to be considered a forgery.

Good grief! You have done me a great disservice by putting conclusions into my posts which are not there.

I do not believe that Zero is eligible to be POTUS.

I am suspicious with regard to the paper document shown in the factcheck photos.

I have not said or implied that the piece of paper in the photographs is anything more substantial than a piece of paper in a photograph.

Right now, my conclusion, for what it is worth, is this: The piece of paper, purported to be an authentic document containing accurate information for Zero and shown in the factcheck images, as near as I can tell, is an actual piece of paper with printing and seal on it. I don't know if the seal is the correct seal. I don't know if the printed letters are telling the truth. I don't know where it was assembled, nor who assembled it, nor for what purpose. Very little would surprise me when it comes to that 0.1.

However, Polarik issued a challenge, more than once and in language my mother would not have approved of. That, coupled with the fact that some of his Photoshop allegations are extremely suspect, led to this spat. Well, that and the fact that enough of his report is unreliable to cause me to question great chunks of it.

I have been proudly calling myself a birther since the term became known to me. There is no group on FR that I identify more closely with. Other than that, I will let me posting history speak for itself.

326 posted on 02/06/2009 6:34:59 PM PST by BrerLion (the alarmists are coming! the alarmists are coming!)
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To: MHGinTN
You tried to twist it around to ‘can’t prove a negative’

I should also point out to you that "No one can prove that the image hasn't been manipulated" was a jab at the anti-birther you mentioned. I'm sorry, I thought that was obvious, but maybe not. You could have just as easily used my post to jump on an opponent, rather than me.

327 posted on 02/06/2009 7:51:23 PM PST by BrerLion (the alarmists are coming! the alarmists are coming!)
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