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Carbon Credits: Another Corrupt Currency? The real hockey-stick graph
Science and Public Policy Institute ^
| 3 Feb 09
| Joanne Nova
Posted on 02/02/2009 8:54:14 PM PST by I got the rope
Summary for Policy Makers
Carbon credits are a form of fiat currency, yet as calls for carbon trading grow, ironically, another fiat currency collapsesdestroying life savings, wiping out jobs, and taking down historic institutions overnight. Fiat money has a long history of failure, corruption and fraud. The inevitable booms, busts and inflation act as an invisible tax, transferring wealth from people who work and save to speculators, middle men, and crooks. The US dollarsovereign issue of a great capitalist, democratic nationis on life support. So far at least eight hundred billion dollars has been created from thin air to stop the banking system from crashing.
Meanwhile, global warming alarmists are asking us to create another fiat currency, this time based on hot air. Large multinational conglomerates are already pouring billions into exchanges and derivatives in anticipation of carbon trading. There are options to buy credits in the future.
Theres no longer any evidence that carbon matters much to our climate; and in the unlikely event that carbon might matter, the benefits of trading carbon dont add up. If the US adopted Obamas strict 80% reduction in emissions tomorrow, thus transforming the main energy source used by Americans since Columbus[i], the savings in carbon merely delay the claimed warmer-Armageddon by six years.
Currencies based on nothing are powerful tools that have reshaped civilizations. But they draw out the darkest elements of human nature. We open this Pandoras Box with trepidation. Is the risk worth the benefit?
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carbon; currency; globalwarming
Some on FreeRepublic were writing about this months ago.
To: I got the rope
To: I got the rope
Although I have scant evidence, I get the gut feeling that global warming and the carbon credit scam was suppose to be the next big investment vehicle, like derivatives. Only problem Bush got elected and 911 fouled up their timing.
Imagine all the potiential billions, if not trillions banks and invest house would have to pad their yearly quarter reports. Remember Enron heavily relied upon carbon trading coming into flower.
Quite a cushy job with no heavy lifting, just mandate squeezing electric users and taxpayers ”for the good of the environment.
Too bad George and Mother Nature quiffed their plans.
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posted on
02/02/2009 9:10:25 PM PST
by
RedMonqey
To: I got the rope; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; Fiddlstix; ...
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posted on
02/03/2009 3:03:50 AM PST
by
steelyourfaith
(BO has been POTUS two weeks and I still have to buy my gas and pay my mortgage. What's up with that?)
To: I got the rope
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posted on
02/03/2009 10:53:45 PM PST
by
SuziQ
To: neverdem; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; AdmSmith; Berosus; ...
My apologies for duplicate pinging anyone.
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posted on
02/07/2009 3:19:15 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
To: RedMonqey
We love the phony claim that it would have “created wealth.”
And all the while real wealth creation was being tanked, and Bush and the Republicans did little to prevent it.
To: I got the rope; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...
Carbon Scam/POGW
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posted on
02/07/2009 3:24:59 PM PST
by
xcamel
(The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
To: I got the rope
It's actually the opposite from what the author asserts. Alternative "green" energy will be the best way to destroy inflated dollars. The only way out of the current credit deflation crisis is monetary inflation, but that will need to be nipped at some point. One way to nip it is to decree that everyone must burn money. For you and me it means we send an extra large check to some carbon credit shyster who almost literally buries money (e.g. carbon) for a fee.
The other effect of banning the use of real energy (or requiring the use fake "green" energy) is that it reduces its value and thus deflates any energy price bubble that takes place.
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posted on
02/07/2009 4:40:49 PM PST
by
palmer
(Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
02/07/2009 5:52:13 PM PST
by
Rurudyne
(Standup Philosopher)
To: Rurudyne
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posted on
02/07/2009 6:28:45 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
To: palmer
I’m not sure I follow everything you are saying. I do understand that at some point we MUST stop printing money to correct the value of the dollar.
To: I got the rope
There's a point beyond which stopping printing is not good enough, you need to burn money. The electronic commerce simplifies that process. But the need to get rid of money coincides nicely with the left's desire to gut energy consumption. They will force everyone to buy ridiculous "green" carbon offsets, one of which will be to actually pump carbon (useful energy) underground.
So instead of paying $100/month for electricity and spending $400 bidding up prices of other goods, you will send in $500 a month and won't be able to demand other goods, therefore holding inflation in check. The money disappears right into the hole in the ground.
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posted on
02/07/2009 7:53:59 PM PST
by
palmer
(Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
To: I got the rope
The next wall street ponzi scheme.
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posted on
02/07/2009 8:02:49 PM PST
by
Fred
('There is no free lunch' Marc Faber)
To: AmericanVictory
Very true. I can think of no better example than the “green” windmills. Without the subsidies, these so called money makers are are actually money pits for a large percentage of investors. That's why T Boone Pickens was lobbying local and state governments to give him easement rights for his power lines and other goodies for his big Green Money machine.(just another pork project to line his pockets)
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posted on
02/08/2009 10:04:06 PM PST
by
RedMonqey
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