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The Mile-High Office (why corporate jets are a good thing)
NYTimes ^ | 1 Feb 2009 | By William Garvey

Posted on 02/02/2009 7:41:24 AM PST by PhiloBedo

This may seem like an outrageous statement, especially right after the public hubbub that caused Citigroup — the beneficiary of billions in government bailout money — to cancel the delivery of a new $42 million jet. But consider this: The General Aviation Manufacturers Association estimates that more than one million people are employed manufacturing, maintaining, flying and managing business aircraft. In addition to keeping legions at work in top-paying jobs, business aircraft facilitate and expand commerce for their users and contribute $150 billion to the American economy annually. With that in mind, it’s astounding to see members of Congress, the very people doling out hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to failed companies, disparaging and even actively trying to curtail this industry, which is already reeling from the economic and credit crises. The business jet is merely a tool —

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aviation; businessjets; ceo
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1 posted on 02/02/2009 7:41:24 AM PST by PhiloBedo
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To: PhiloBedo

This is akin to the outsourcing argument and the model is still wrong.

Corporate jets are a luxury item not a necessity.


2 posted on 02/02/2009 7:47:43 AM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: PhiloBedo

Corporate jets may be a good thing, but only for companies that are profitable and are not relying on taxpayer bailouts to keep them afloat.


3 posted on 02/02/2009 7:48:40 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: PhiloBedo

More BS (Business Socialist, of Bull S...) blather.

After taxpayers have subsidized your company....you do not go out and buy a personal jet. Fly commercial

Heck...they should tele-conference more....maybe they wouldn’t be broke if they used some modern technology


4 posted on 02/02/2009 7:52:27 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Open Borders should be only for bookstores, not the third world hellhole known as Mexico)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Outsourcing typically refers to sending jobs overseas.

It is more akin to the internet argument.....can a business be competitive without using the internet?


5 posted on 02/02/2009 7:54:42 AM PST by PhiloBedo (I won't be happy until Jet-A is less than $2.00 a gallon)
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To: PhiloBedo

pathetic attempt at justifying a luxury item.


6 posted on 02/02/2009 7:55:24 AM PST by durasell
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To: PhiloBedo

http://www.gulfstream.com/product_enhancements/refurbishment/


7 posted on 02/02/2009 8:02:06 AM PST by durasell
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To: PhiloBedo

If they didn’t want scrutiny over how many fancy jets they buy, they shouldn’t have gotten in bed with the federal government.


8 posted on 02/02/2009 8:03:22 AM PST by mysterio
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To: MikeWUSAF

If they are such a necessity, the CEO’s should buy them with their bonuses.

Wonder how many will do that?


9 posted on 02/02/2009 8:03:25 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: mysterio

Well said. I couldn’t agree more.


10 posted on 02/02/2009 8:06:04 AM PST by PhiloBedo (I won't be happy until Jet-A is less than $2.00 a gallon)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Agreed.

I have an even better idea.

Invest in video conferencing infrastructure.


11 posted on 02/02/2009 8:24:36 AM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: MikeWUSAF; PhiloBedo
Having flown extensively on both commercial and corporate jets...

I would call corporate jets a "convenience" but not a necessity. But with all of BS going on with commercial air travel, flying corporate saves hours (literally) each trip. For me, they turned a 1/2 day plus (assuming no delays) trip to NYC into a short commute of a little over an hour. Since LaGuardia can always be counted on to get backed up, I really preferred to fly corporate out of Teterboro.

Further, the corporate jets that I've always flown, have nearly always been full. Unless there was a last-minute schedule change, or cancellation - they try to keep every seat occupied. Can't say that for commercial.

Finally, more often than not, particularly on flights to major cities (NY, Boston) the extra seats were occupied by sick children and their families, headed for treatment, or back home from it. The program is called "Corporate Angels" and I think that it's one of the best corporate charities that you've never heard of.

12 posted on 02/02/2009 8:32:17 AM PST by wbill
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To: PhiloBedo

First they came for the CEO’s jet and I laughed.

Then they came for my neighbor’s SUV and I was quiet.

When they came for my 2 cylinder econo-spec it was too late.


13 posted on 02/02/2009 8:45:39 AM PST by DManA
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To: mysterio
If they didn’t want scrutiny over how many fancy jets they buy, they shouldn’t have gotten in bed with the federal government.

I am unclear as to how many asked for government money and how often the government insisted on them taking it. As I recall, Wells Fargo didn't want a "bailout" but Bernake told all the bankers, "You will take this deal or you won't get out of this room!"

14 posted on 02/02/2009 8:48:15 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

I don’t recall Citigroup claiming the money was forced on them,.


15 posted on 02/02/2009 8:49:20 AM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

I don’t either but Warren Buffet and some Arabs put lots of money in Citibank, too. Did they really need money from the government?


16 posted on 02/02/2009 8:57:57 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: wbill
Don't go injecting facts into an emotional discussion. I mean, we're talking about how people feel about Corporate America here. That's way more important than the truth. ;)
17 posted on 02/02/2009 9:00:39 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: DManA
"Then they came for my neighbor’s SUV and I was quiet."

That's the point I hop on a horse and ride off into the swamp with my guns and my dogs.

18 posted on 02/02/2009 9:03:55 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: P-Marlowe
thank you Orville and Wilbur for general aviation ..

the cream no longer rises ..

19 posted on 02/02/2009 9:06:46 AM PST by heavy9 (heavy9)
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To: PhiloBedo

Is this akin to the mile-high club?? ;-P


20 posted on 02/02/2009 9:23:44 AM PST by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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