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What Cooked the World's Economy? It wasn't your overdue mortgage.
The Village Voice ^ | James Lieber

Posted on 02/02/2009 12:41:18 AM PST by Tempest

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To: wita

Did you bother to read the article before giving us your politically motivated opinion?...some of us prefer facts over the ideologically based blame game. What you say is just not true...if you sat down and look at the money involved you could see this clearly.


261 posted on 02/02/2009 9:30:15 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: dennisw

I think this is correct...if he was involved in the day to day...he would have taken his money out and ran, like the rest of these cockroaches.


262 posted on 02/02/2009 9:31:39 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: CharacterCounts

Credit unions invest in their community mostly and do not engage in risky lending practices...hence they don’t need a bail out.


263 posted on 02/02/2009 9:32:30 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
"...there was a financial event on Wall Street last October through November that turned our entire economy upside down."

OK, I can follow this part, now how do we get to where our 7.2% unemployment is worse than when it was 7.4%?

264 posted on 02/02/2009 9:32:32 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: bronxboy
Not long...with unemployment increasing on a daily basis. The charade will end.

Liberals know they can't continue their ponzi schemes, they know the end is coming. Right now as liberals always do is to find somebody, anybody to necklace the blame. Reason why they are nearly down on their bended knees trying to get Republican cover.

265 posted on 02/02/2009 9:33:09 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Darkwolf377

Podesta is running the Obama administration. Podesta headed a George Soros think tank that picked all of Obama’s nominees. Well, he gave Obama a list of possible picks for each job and Obama made the selection, supposedly. I think that Podesta has even written a book about it, laying it all out, saying that they planned to have it all planned out, so that Obama could hit the ground running.

Now, Podesta is head of the CIA.


266 posted on 02/02/2009 9:33:56 AM PST by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: bronxboy
Yeah, there were losses of approx 91% on Lehman contracts, but the point is that net funds transfers from net sellers of protection to net buyers of protection was somewhere in the $6 billion range, from memory. A trifling sum compared to the trillions being bandied about here.

That's why the whole thing passed without comment and it's why this article misses the point.

267 posted on 02/02/2009 9:35:01 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future"- Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I hear a bunch of traders have bought oil and storing it on ships...so it will go up. They will see to it. Where is the biggest oil company located? Wall Street, NYC


268 posted on 02/02/2009 9:35:19 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy

There is a finite supply of oil tankers, what happens when they fill several hundred?

(Where did you lose your money again?)


269 posted on 02/02/2009 9:39:02 AM PST by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: expat_panama

Six month lag...it will hit over 10% by the end of the years even with the BS statistics kept by our government.


270 posted on 02/02/2009 9:39:45 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: Just mythoughts

No doubt...they are desperate. I would not just include Dems though...the bucket law was repealed during a GOP Congress-2000. They are all to blame.


271 posted on 02/02/2009 9:41:07 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: marshmallow

No the government backstopped the losses so we don’t know what they were...they were big losses...no doubt.


272 posted on 02/02/2009 9:42:01 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: listenhillary

Traders will attempt to drive oil up...where else are they going to make money? Count on it...the money I lost was in a 401K...supposedly diversified... and a few stocks I’ll pretend you really care and answer your question which was only posed...so you could find a clever way to say, “YOUR STUPID AND LOST YOUR MONEY’. There are naughty words for people like you who feed off of others misery...but I’m not allowed to use them while posting on Free Republic...or in the presence of a lady.


273 posted on 02/02/2009 9:47:45 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: Eva

You know, realizing I’ve been justified in hating Podesta all these years doesn’t feel very good. :(


274 posted on 02/02/2009 9:52:46 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: Darkwolf377

Being right can be damned depressing...right now.


275 posted on 02/02/2009 9:53:51 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy
This is what you cut and pasted in # 257:

Settlements for the credit default swaps on Lehman Brother’s contracts are on October 21st. With over $350 billion of losses that will be recorded from just one financial institution failure, this is sure to spread throughout the industry and cause further defaults.

Now go back and look at what actually happened on Oct 21. The $350 billion mentioned here actually turned out to be about $6 billion (from memory). The government didn't backstop the losses. There was a give and take between buyers and sellers of the swaps which ended in a much smaller net transfer of money from sellers to buyers.Reason: many players in the game were both buyers and sellers. When it all panned out, the fallout was much smaller than expected.

276 posted on 02/02/2009 9:54:51 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future"- Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: bronxboy
No the government backstopped the losses so we don’t know what they were...

Posting claims with no back up again. LOL!

277 posted on 02/02/2009 9:56:41 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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To: Centurion2000
"...there are structural problems with the financial systems. Banks were DESIGNED to be a place to safely store extra wealth."

People are putting their money in banks.  The problem is that too many are saving not enough people are borrowing from the banks and spending their loan money.  Banks don't make profits from deposits, they profit from making loans.  Our problem is gloom'n'doom negativity.

Worse, it's downright delusional.  Example: something in the latest GDP press release that nobody's talking about is the fact that while the total product shrank, our personal incomes grew!  It gets better.  Our personal after-tax incomes have been growing for the entire span of our 'recession', so this is the first recession ever where we not only have had an increasing GDP, but we've seen incomes go up too.

Truly amazing!

278 posted on 02/02/2009 10:00:02 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: bronxboy

I would bet that I lost more money than you in 2008, but I’m not prepared to get in a micturation contest with you.

Sorry to confuse you. You can be even nastier now if you want. I’m a guy.


279 posted on 02/02/2009 10:01:59 AM PST by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: bronxboy
"Being right can be damned depressing...right now."

You aren't right, you just talk too much. Endless numbers of posts...none of them backed by even the slimest logic or facts.

All that you are proving is that you can get in the last word, even if your last word is as erroneous as your first.

This forum needs a *limit* on the number of posts by one member in a given thread. Otherwise, wild-eyed know-nothings who have gotten propaganda stuffed into their heads will simply out-talk everyone else.

280 posted on 02/02/2009 10:03:00 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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