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Folding dealers shock car buyers with unpaid liens
Yahoo ^ | 2/1/2009 | DON THOMPSON

Posted on 02/01/2009 5:53:51 PM PST by Red in Blue PA

SACRAMENTO, Calif. – The national wave of auto dealership closures has come crashing down on thousands of people who are on the hook for used-car loans that dealers were supposed to absolve.

When a car buyer still owes money on a vehicle he is trading in, the dealer promises to pay off the outstanding loan, then resells the vehicle. But as more dealers go out of business, some are sticking consumers with the bill. Lenders can then go after the previous owner who thought the debt was paid, or repossess the car from the new owner who assumed it came with clear title.

"It's devastating for people when it happens because they have two car payments and they can't afford them," said Rosemary Shahan, president of Consumers for Auto Reliability and Safety, a Sacramento-based nonprofit that lobbies on behalf of vehicle owners. "Their credit is destroyed for no fault of their own because the dealer defaulted."

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KEYWORDS: economy; financialcrisis
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1 posted on 02/01/2009 5:53:51 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Once again, wasn’t this one of the reasons we “rescued” the banks?


2 posted on 02/01/2009 5:55:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

Go ask Henry Paulson if you can find him


3 posted on 02/01/2009 5:58:13 PM PST by dennisw (white trash philosophizer)
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To: dennisw

It does seem like he’s dropped off the face of the planet.


4 posted on 02/01/2009 5:59:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

He’s a citizen of the world so he could re-locate anywhere. Maybe he’s viting his money in the Caymans


5 posted on 02/01/2009 6:04:48 PM PST by dennisw (white trash philosophizer)
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To: dennisw

visiting


6 posted on 02/01/2009 6:05:14 PM PST by dennisw (white trash philosophizer)
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To: Red in Blue PA

0bama’s fault.


7 posted on 02/01/2009 6:05:15 PM PST by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

You should expect that from car dealers. I worked for a new car dealer—biggest one in that city. He was pure evil in every way. He believed in evil...believed that there was only strength in evil and weakness in good.


8 posted on 02/01/2009 6:05:16 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: cripplecreek
Once again, wasn’t this one of the reasons we “rescued” the banks?

The banks weren't rescued.

They were essentially acquired by the fedguv.

The IRS is the collection agent and can hound one into the next generation and beyond.

This is what a majority of your fellow citizens wanted, so you should stop complaining.

9 posted on 02/01/2009 6:05:38 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper
Doesn't anyone actually read a contract anymore?

L

10 posted on 02/01/2009 6:07:49 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. It's too late for the pebbles to vote.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I find this confusing. If you have a lien on a vehicle you are trading in, doesn’t that lien have to be satisfied before you can transfer title to the dealer? If this lien is being satisfied with a new loan, how would the dealer ever get their hands on the money? Wouldn’t the dealer have had to satisfy the lien before they could acquire or dispose of the title?


11 posted on 02/01/2009 6:07:59 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Red in Blue PA
...the dealer promises to pay off the outstanding loan,...

Does the dealer put this "promise" in writing?

12 posted on 02/01/2009 6:08:26 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Simple solution, don’t trade in your used car, when you buy a new one. Sell it directly to the next person who will be driving it, and you can both come out ahead, without the dealer default risk.


13 posted on 02/01/2009 6:08:27 PM PST by 3niner (Hoover turned a recession into a depression, FDR turned it into The Great Depression)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“Their credit is destroyed for no fault of their own because the dealer defaulted.”

yet another example of how the banks have twisted the system in their favor.


14 posted on 02/01/2009 6:10:48 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cripplecreek
Once again, wasn’t this one of the reasons we “rescued” the banks?

No, we bailed them out so they could buy tankers and drive up the price of oil, silly.
15 posted on 02/01/2009 6:11:07 PM PST by mysterio
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To: meyer

That signature is as good as the signature on a Federal Reserve Note.


16 posted on 02/01/2009 6:11:36 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Lurker
Doesn't anyone actually read a contract anymore?

No, and it doesn't mean anything anyway because your local, state and federal governments can abrogate any contract any time it pleases them.

17 posted on 02/01/2009 6:11:39 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Red in Blue PA

And notice that the car dealers (”untouchables”) don’t go to jail for the fraud, as do people who get picked up on technicalities regarding loans. That’s because our country is rife with organized crime and has been for a long time.


18 posted on 02/01/2009 6:11:53 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: 3niner

Place here was doing that. It made the news and I think they closed down.


19 posted on 02/01/2009 6:12:20 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
yet another example of how the banks have twisted the system in their favor.

Pssst...it ain't the banks. (Don't tell anyone).

20 posted on 02/01/2009 6:13:16 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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