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In Davos, protectionism is a dirty word (Putin for a global putsch to topple the dollar)
Telegraph ^ | 01/31/09 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 02/01/2009 3:12:01 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

In Davos, protectionism is a dirty word

The beggar-thy-neighbour phase has begun in earnest. "Buy American" legislation has advanced from a barely credible threat to imminent reality on Capitol Hill in just weeks.

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Last Updated: 11:31PM GMT 31 Jan 2009

The House has voted for a bill that prohibits the use of foreign steel in most infrastructure projects funded by Barack Obama's $820bn (£563bn) rescue package. The Senate is drawing up plans to widen that to all manufactured goods.

This is what happens when a country loses half a million jobs a month, and when the state becomes spender-of-last-resort. Taxpayers are tribal. They do not want precious stimulus to feed the foreigner.

Even so, this Dutch auction has the disorderly feel of the Smoot-Hawley Tariff debacle in 1930, though this time the collapse of commerce – if allowed to happen – will have very different consequences for the global balance of power.

Mr Obama can veto the law, should he wish to pick a fight with Capitol Hill from day one. The world watches and waits in horror, especially in Davos.

"Everybody here is talking about protectionism. There's not a prime minister present not talking about protectionism," said Peter Sutherland, former (GATT) trade chief and now chair of BP.

Days earlier, US Treasury chief Tim Geithner called China a "currency manipulator" – meaning that Beijing holds down the yuan to boost exports. The term is turbo-charged. It implies mandatory trade sanctions under US law.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhotrade; coldwar2; davos; dollar; protectionism; putin; russia; sovietunion; tradwar
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To: Toddsterpatriot

When times get tough, the average worker always runs to protectionism. Its just human nature. The fact that it hurts them in the long term is forgotten.

People that realize that have to stand up and remind them.


41 posted on 02/01/2009 6:51:37 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: dennisw

Wake up, there is a reason the high tech companies(IBM, HP, etc.) are shifting attention, assets (read research, manufacturing, technology centers, etc.) to the Middle East, Asia and parts of South America. The executives in Davos see power and money moving south and east. They go where the MONEY is...those attending Davos don’t give a fig about the US recovery except to the extent it allows them to suck out more $$$.


42 posted on 02/01/2009 6:53:10 AM PST by NHResident
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To: A.Hun

So you are saying you want the government to control what goods can and cannot be sold?.........

As far as imports, yes
Slap tariffs on them
I don’t like 700 billion dollar trade deficits


43 posted on 02/01/2009 6:56:06 AM PST by dennisw (white trash philosophizer)
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To: NHResident

I agree. Just look how Haliburton relocated to Dubai with nary a thought


44 posted on 02/01/2009 6:57:10 AM PST by dennisw (white trash philosophizer)
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To: dennisw
I don’t like 700 billion dollar trade deficits

Then buy less. Tariffs are artificial bandaids to favor special interests.

45 posted on 02/01/2009 7:01:51 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Rescind NAFTA
46 posted on 02/01/2009 7:05:00 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: chainsaw

More government interference with trade, for the children!!!


47 posted on 02/01/2009 7:10:16 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Days earlier, US Treasury chief Tim Geithner called China a "currency manipulator" ...

Pretty funny coming from Tim "TurboTax" Geithner.

48 posted on 02/01/2009 7:15:56 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’m warming to the idea of buying american and hiring american workers.

In the end it will be the USA that brings the world out of the current mess.

the way this will happen will be consistantly low energy prices and american workers working more productively and making more money.


49 posted on 02/01/2009 7:26:30 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Oh and one other thing. the technology is coming that will collapse the cost of water desalination and transport—making it economically feasable to turn the world’s deserts green and double the size of the habitable planet.


50 posted on 02/01/2009 7:27:55 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: bluejay

At present time the number of Americans with college degrees is something under 25%.

To be perfectly frank on the subject, that means 75% of the population can’t be a computer or communications engineer, biotech guy or researcher.


51 posted on 02/01/2009 7:43:29 AM PST by durasell
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Your comments are all apropos and your view is accurate.

Perhaps you might start up a geopolitics - geoeconomics web site - blog. I expect such a blog would develop quite a following. I am impressed with your insights.

Certainly I believe there is room for a counter balance to Asia Times.


52 posted on 02/01/2009 7:49:39 AM PST by Iris7 ("Do not live lies!" ...Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn)
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To: dennisw

You’re gonna love this little stunt. After taking hundreds of billions of dollars, Citigroup and pals use it to stockpile cheap oil to sell back to us when the prices go up. Bailout supporters will claim it was a loan that will be paid back. (last I recalled a loan required that the loaner give permission). In reality it’s like being mugged and the mugger buying goods to sell them back to his victim at a higher price.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aZSSMtC6ynNY


53 posted on 02/01/2009 8:15:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek
Citigroup and pals use it to stockpile cheap oil to sell back to us when the prices go up.

Darn that bank, they should lose money instead. That'll help them pay back the bailout loans.

54 posted on 02/01/2009 8:38:46 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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To: dennisw
The much vaunted "consumer economy" was always a lie and this is its endgame

Right on, brother!

Just preachin' and teachin', that's what we need now.

God, gold, guns, and guts will see us through. We may need temporary use of a few lampposts, though.

55 posted on 02/01/2009 10:35:37 AM PST by Jim Noble (Tom Daschle's favorite tune: "Baby you can drive my car")
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To: cripplecreek

I would say that the single greatest job-killer in Michigan is the SBT. Funny how only free-traders ever bring up taxes.


56 posted on 02/01/2009 11:45:27 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: durasell

> To be perfectly frank on the subject, that means 75% of the population can’t be a computer or communications engineer, biotech guy or researcher.

I’ve met more than one (each) computer and biotech engineer without a college degree. BTW, last I checked being a mortgage broker did not require a college degree either. In fact, you can (and multiple people have) become a very wealthy stock broker and salesman without a college degree.


57 posted on 02/01/2009 2:29:13 PM PST by bluejay
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To: bluejay

that was my point. you can be a real estate sales guy or broker without a degree. those types of industries gave a lot of folks work.

the type of job options they now have are extremely limited. 30 years ago they would be in factories. today they’re in wal-mart or some similar situation.


58 posted on 02/01/2009 2:33:50 PM PST by durasell
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To: durasell

> the type of job options they now have are extremely limited. 30 years ago they would be in factories. today they’re in wal-mart or some similar situation.

Plumbers, Carpenters, Car mechanics, Electricians, Handy men/General contractors, Builders, Heavy machinery operators, etc.

All of these are “not in manufacturing”, all of these are capable of “6-figure incomes”, all of these are harmed by protectionism, none of these benefit from overpaying for goods.

And, lest I forget, none of these require a college degree.


59 posted on 02/01/2009 3:12:22 PM PST by bluejay
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To: bluejay

All of those have taken a major hit during the current recession.

And when is a “handy man” a six figure income. C’mon, you just threw that in there to fill out the list, didn’t ya?


60 posted on 02/01/2009 3:15:42 PM PST by durasell
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