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Obama touts middle-class task force led by Biden (+ more exec orders from O)
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 1/30/09 | Philip Elliott

Posted on 01/30/2009 11:28:05 AM PST by Wolfstar

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To: DoughtyOne
I know the area, although I haven’t spent much time down there in years. Didn’t Terry Anderson live down there? He used to comment about what happened to his neighborhood when the Hispanics moved in.

Do you remember the Hawthorne Mall on Hawthorne Blvd. just north of El Segundo Blvd.? It has been abandoned for years, its doorways are boarded up and its parking lot is overgrown with weeds.

The forum was torn down some years ago, and Hollywood Park is struggling. If it finally goes, there won't be any large employers left in Inglewood.

The Hispanics have been gradually pushing the blacks further and further south, out of South Central L.A., Inglewood and Hawthorne. There are many abandoned commercial properties. WalMart would have brought in some very sorely needed economic revitalization. Instead, they built it on 190th Street and Normandie in Torrance. It does huge business, and most of its shoppers are the blacks and Hispanics who didn't want WalMart in their own area. So Torrance, a mostly white city that tilts Republican, reaps the benefits. Go figure.

21 posted on 01/30/2009 2:04:48 PM PST by Wolfstar (Some day when we meet up yonder, we'll stroll hand in hand again, in a land that knows no parting)
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To: Wolfstar

No, I can’t say that I do remember it. I might if I saw it though.

I know what you mean about that area having lost large businesses. It’s a real shame.

I don’t like going down there, because it’s not a good area after the sun goes down. And I think that kills any impetus the large businesses have, with locating there. And yet, these people probably blame everyone but themselves for businesses not wanting to move in.

Then there’s the problem of riots every forty years or so. What happens when people get upset and burn all the businesses to the ground for ten miles?

It’s a real shame what is happening to some of our communities. The Van Nuys Boulevard area has gone downhill too. I happened to enter a Sears or a Wards out there about three years ago, and the signs were in Spanish, small English lettering down below. It’s such a shame what we are allowing.


22 posted on 01/30/2009 2:16:18 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: FBI cuts off CAIR for contact with Hamas, Obama wants to talk to.)
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To: DoughtyOne
It’s such a shame what we are allowing.

It is, indeed. I've lived in California over 32 years, and love the state, but I'm seriously thinking about moving to southern Utah. I'm not Mormon, but I know people who moved from Southern California to Utah, and they say it's a great place to live.

California is in such a mess from top to bottom that it's quickly becoming unlivable for average folk like me.

23 posted on 01/30/2009 2:31:30 PM PST by Wolfstar (Some day when we meet up yonder, we'll stroll hand in hand again, in a land that knows no parting)
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To: Wolfstar

“California is in such a mess from top to bottom that it’s quickly becoming unlivable for average folk like me.”

The north end of the state is one of the most conservative places in the entire country. And Beautiful! Lots of flags flying and we still carry our guns in our pick’emuptrucks.
You’d love it.


24 posted on 01/30/2009 2:33:55 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Wolfstar

I remain a firm believer that California can be turned around. If we can pass Proposition 8, we can get Conservatives elected. Areas like yours can be brought back under control. With the proper leadership, it would happen.

Imagine a candidate reaching out to Blacks and Hispanics by offering them task forces to return their communities to places where their kids can play outside again.

It wouldn’t take that long to clean out gangs if we made gang membership a five year minimum sentence, then started using RICO laws to sterilize the community clean. We could take out the gang leaders, giving the rank and file a bit of leeway. If they cleaned up their act, we could let them skate. If not, we could take them out of society for a ‘timeout’.

It takes willpower. There are tools out there we can use. We just don’t.

There are a number of things we can do to make the minority families truly better.

Removing the protections of minors that commit significant crimes would be a good place to focus. If you kill someone as a minor, you’re going to spend at least 25 years in the youth authority and prison. The day you reach 21, it’s off to federal prison with you to finish your term. Other crimes should get the same type of play.


25 posted on 01/30/2009 2:40:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: FBI cuts off CAIR for contact with Hamas, Obama wants to talk to.)
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To: AuntB
The north end of the state is one of the most conservative places in the entire country.

I love the area around Tulelake.

26 posted on 01/30/2009 3:09:35 PM PST by Wolfstar (Some day when we meet up yonder, we'll stroll hand in hand again, in a land that knows no parting)
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To: DoughtyOne

Your ideas are good ones, D1. Problem is that the Marxists have a stranglehold on our legislature and most of our big population centers. I just don’t see the state, or L.A. county, turning around anytime in the foreseeable future.


27 posted on 01/30/2009 3:11:46 PM PST by Wolfstar (Some day when we meet up yonder, we'll stroll hand in hand again, in a land that knows no parting)
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Nor do I, but I do think there is more of a chance than is commonly thought. It’s my sense right now the people of this state are furious with Sacramento. The Democrats aren’t fooling anyone. I’ve seen interviews with people on the streets. They blame the Legislature for the problems, not Schwarzenegger. (frankly I think there’s plenty of blame for both) Still it’s encouraging to know that there is a lot of unrest out there. I am convinced that an initiative seeking to fire all elected officials in Sacramento would pass with a very comfortable margin.

Then if our people presented a reasoned plan accompanied by other good sound policy, we could possibly sweep things clean.

The one thing folks never think about, is that the Democrats for all intents and purposes have controlled the Legislature for decades.


28 posted on 01/30/2009 3:23:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: FBI cuts off CAIR for contact with Hamas, Obama wants to talk to.)
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Your enthusiasm and optimistic outlook is infections, D1. I’ve been discouraged for too long, now.


29 posted on 01/30/2009 3:41:27 PM PST by Wolfstar (Some day when we meet up yonder, we'll stroll hand in hand again, in a land that knows no parting)
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To: Wolfstar

I love our state. I am angry what it has been allowed to degenerate into. And there’s no reason to allow this to continue. There are decent people out there who want this gang scourge to end. There are decent people out there who want our elected officials to quit acting like sixth grade hoodlums. If we came together across racial and political lines to end this mess, I think it could be very positive.


30 posted on 01/30/2009 3:58:55 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: FBI cuts off CAIR for contact with Hamas, Obama wants to talk to.)
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To: Wolfstar
So Joe Biden is now officially,,,

"CLASS WARFARE CZAR"!!!

Now THAT is "change you can believe in"!

31 posted on 01/30/2009 10:17:04 PM PST by stockstrader
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To: Wolfstar

What the middle class needs is LESS government, not MORE government. As an aside, the first thing a politician does when they want to fake concern over an issue to get the heat off of them is to create a task force.

The question that really needs to be answered here is do you want better paying jobs with less people working because that’s exactly what you’ll get if you unionize everything. Plugs, and for that matter most socialists, can’t get it through his thick skulls that living standards and jobs expand when the private sector sells more goods and services that consumers want to buy at a fair price. Aw, hell, give Amtrak a few more billion and call it a day.


32 posted on 01/31/2009 5:57:15 AM PST by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: Wolfstar
"level the playing field" for labor unions in their struggles with management

The field is already tipped in favor of labor over management from what I have seen working in places with union labor.

They intend to overwhelmingly tip it TOTALLY in favor of the union.

We are becoming the USSA. Get ready for a Soviet style life.

33 posted on 01/31/2009 8:12:06 AM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: RU88
As an aside, the first thing a politician does when they want to fake concern over an issue to get the heat off of them is to create a task force.

And the first thing a new president does when he wants to get the VP out of his hair is to assign the VP to head some meaningless task force. Obama is hard a work consolidating his power in the hands of a small number of trusted aides.

34 posted on 01/31/2009 10:28:36 AM PST by Wolfstar (Some day when we meet up yonder, we'll stroll hand in hand again, in a land that knows no parting)
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