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Former Bushie “We’ve got to start implementing THE Facebook"
The Washington Examiner ^ | January 30, 2009 | By Jeff Dufour and Patrick Gavin

Posted on 01/30/2009 10:44:11 AM PST by theruleshavechanged

How Republicans Lost Their Mojo and How They Can Get it Back" was the topic of his Thursday address at the executive summit of The National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors -- the latest in a long line of GOP soul-searchers of late.

(Excerpt) Read more at dcexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; facebook; mojo
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Gee. . . how many times are we going to hear this from our ousted leaders? Obama did not win the election using Facebook!
1 posted on 01/30/2009 10:44:12 AM PST by theruleshavechanged
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To: theruleshavechanged

The internets are serious business.


2 posted on 01/30/2009 10:44:49 AM PST by mysterio
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To: theruleshavechanged
Exactly. Obama didn't win because of "New media". He won because of Old media (TV and newspapers) carrying his water. New media was the biggest obstacle for Obama.

The GOP has to find a way communicating beyond the old media to the people. Radio, internet and hopefully a CONSERVATIVE (not Fox News) TV channel are a must.

3 posted on 01/30/2009 10:47:36 AM PST by SolidWood (www.sarahpac.com / Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: mysterio

4 posted on 01/30/2009 10:47:41 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Govt is like a baby - a loud mouth & big appetite on one end & no responsibility on the other)
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To: theruleshavechanged
They could always try using good ol' Conservatism.

Oh, wait. Facebook is much better.

/s

5 posted on 01/30/2009 10:54:16 AM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: SolidWood
Exactly. Obama didn't win because of "New media". He won because of Old media (TV and newspapers) carrying his water. New media was the biggest obstacle for Obama.

You probably want to re-think that. As tempting as it is to do so, this cannot be laid at the feet of the media.

I will grant that Obama did, indeed, rely on the media to project a certain image, and they did, indeed, come through for him.

But that was quite obviously only a means to an end. The adulation heaped on Obama points to something else going on in the minds of the voting (and non-voting) public.

People were ready for somebody like Obama to show up. They were hungry for it. The question is, why? What is it that people were/are looking for?

And, politically, what is it that Obama offered that conservatives could not counter, and why?

Give that some thought.... it quickly becomes a rather uncomfortable subject.

6 posted on 01/30/2009 10:57:08 AM PST by r9etb
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“The GOP has to find a way communicating beyond the old media to the people. Radio, internet and hopefully a CONSERVATIVE (not Fox News) TV channel are a must. “

The problem with that statement is that it should be clear by now that the GOP (with exceptions) is centrist and not conservative.

What they communicate will be a centrist message.


7 posted on 01/30/2009 10:57:09 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: SIDENET

“They could always try using good ol’ Conservatism.

Oh, wait. Facebook is much better.”

Like it or not Facebook will reach young people better. Good old fashioned conservatism will work for the 35 and over crowd.


8 posted on 01/30/2009 10:57:18 AM PST by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Obama won because laws and promises did not matter to him.

He took illegal foreign contributions.

He renegged on his promise to use public funding.

He hired Shepherd Fairey, a man who Obama knew by his own admission used illegal posting of stickers and posters even on stop signs, to wage an illegally wheatpasted street campaign with the “hip” Obama posters.


9 posted on 01/30/2009 10:58:12 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal immigration)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Next he’ll tell us the internet is a series of tubes.

Oh wait, that was last year and it was ted stevens.


10 posted on 01/30/2009 10:58:23 AM PST by NeoCaveman (I'm a RINO, he's a RINO, wouldn't you like to be a RINO too...)
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To: SolidWood
Don't underestimate the communicating power of social networks like Facebook. Example - I do my bit keep up 2nd Amendment rights by teaching kids to shoot (yep, we have gun ranges even here in the land of fruits and nuts). We have a Facebook group that keeps us in touch with college students at UCSB. Two days ago I announced a pistol event. We now have 40 college students coming up in a few weeks to shoot. They'd never otherwise have the opportunity to learn to shoot as part of their college experience. We give them a reason to care about the 2nd - and the Friends of the NRA pays for the ammo. I call it community organization...


11 posted on 01/30/2009 10:59:29 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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“They were hungry for it. The question is, why? What is it that people were/are looking for?”

A non-white.

Reason? To show their politically correct, open-minded bona fides.


12 posted on 01/30/2009 11:00:22 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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I will blame the media, in part. Who got to chair every debate?

Remember the Democrats scoffing at the notion of appearing on Fox for a debate?

Remember the moderator who wrote a book about Obama’s America slated to be released on inauguration day?

I also blame this lousy primary system.

Iowa and New Hampshire get a say in the nomination but Texas doesn’t?

And crossover voters (especially in Florida and Michigan where Democrats were advised to vote in the GOP primary to have a say in the presidential nomination)?

We’d better change the system before 2012.


13 posted on 01/30/2009 11:00:47 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal immigration)
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To: r9etb

That’s not my quarrel. My point is that Old Media was more crucial for Obama’s campaign than New Media was.


14 posted on 01/30/2009 11:04:58 AM PST by SolidWood (www.sarahpac.com / Sarah Palin 2012)
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I don’t disagree with you. Social networks and other New Media outlets will be crucial in the coming political fight. My point was that for Obama’s victory, Old Media was more important than things like “Facebook”.


15 posted on 01/30/2009 11:06:10 AM PST by SolidWood (www.sarahpac.com / Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: SolidWood
Obama didn't win because of "New media". He won because of Old media (TV and newspapers) carrying his water. New media was the biggest obstacle for Obama...

Media have ALWAYS "carried water" for Democrats. It began around the turn of the last century (if you'd google "newspapers with the name "'Democrat'" you'd find a slew vice those with the name 'Republican'.)
But Obama didn't win just because of any media supporting him; he won because he essentially ran against George W. Bush's record of failure. To take back the WH, Republicans are going to have to find another "Reagan." I believe that Sarah Palin can fill such a role in 2012, yet a better choice may be someone like Gen. David Paetreus. Currently, the GOP needs to find itself a chairman. I suggest it looks no further than Michael Steele!

16 posted on 01/30/2009 11:08:57 AM PST by meandog (The two named Bush get the bird from this hand!))
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To: SolidWood

Make no mistake: Yes the old media was carring Fauxbama’s water, but so was the new media. Many conservatives may not get, or like, Facebook, MySpace or other social networking sites but you’ll seldom find today’s young people surfing anywhere else.

Look around coffee shops and other places people hang out and count the number of newspapers you see.

Posting videos to YouTube hoping they go viral is not the end-all be-all of online presence. Some FReepers were using Twitter and Digg, and while was a good start that’s all it was - a start.

This was somewhat of a recent revelation for me as well. I just started a Facebook account and now I’m trying to figure out how to present a positive conservative message in it.


17 posted on 01/30/2009 11:09:00 AM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
A non-white. Reason? To show their politically correct, open-minded bona fides.

Undoubtedly part of it, but I think not the entire explanation. The adulation is too ... well, too religious.

18 posted on 01/30/2009 11:09:12 AM PST by r9etb
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To: theruleshavechanged

Yes, this Interwebs thing is really catching on.

May be worth looking into


19 posted on 01/30/2009 11:10:41 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: theruleshavechanged

They need to get the message right first...BE Conservatives!
Otherwise this is lipstick on a turd.


20 posted on 01/30/2009 11:11:08 AM PST by arealconservativeforachange (There are too many Republicans in the Republican Party.)
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