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The Hidden Weapon of "Gun Control" Advocates
JPFO - Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership ^ | Jan 2009 | Kirby Ferris

Posted on 01/30/2009 6:29:15 AM PST by Marauder

Advocates of victim disarmament in today’s American politics owe their tactics and techniques to a man whose name is becoming more and more familiar: Saul Alinsky. Hillary Clinton actually sat at his feet. Barack Hussein Obama was spoon fed his teachings. Bill Clinton was Saul’s ideological son. And you can bet that freshman Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (Dem. NY) has been well versed in Alinskyism by her own mentor … Madam Hillary.

For decades gun owners have shaken their head in wonder as lie after lie from the gun grabbers results in more and more anti firearms ownership legislation. We can conservatively estimate that there are at least sixty five million gun owners in America today. That is an immense “interest group”. And yet, gun registration (and outright confiscation) schemes have never, in the entire history of our nation, loomed so ominously on the horizon.

Lunacy reigns. But it didn’t happen accidentally. We’ve arrived at the endgame of a process, a process that Saul Alinsky, if he didn’t invent it, polished, packaged, and taught with unbelievable skill and cynicism.

Alinsky’s last book, published in 1971, a year before he died, is titled “Rules For Radicals”. These tactics are the “hidden weapon” of the more sophisticated “gun control” advocates.

Here are Alinsky’s thirteen basic rules. I’ve commented on each, and how they are used by the victim disarmament crowd. The old saw, “know thine enemy”, is ably served if you first understand what your enemy has been taught. The next time you see an anti gun politician or spokesperson spouting off about “responsible gun ownership”, or “keeping guns out of the hands of criminals”, or “the rights of hunters” understand that it is all deception based upon Alinsky’s tactics.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpfo.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: alinsky; banglist; bho2009; democrats; guncontrol; rulesforradicals; saulalinsky; shallnotbeinfringed; socialism
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To: cowboyway

Mark sent a bunch of those out as Christmas gifts too.


61 posted on 01/30/2009 1:37:17 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

And I find your assumptions and opinion just more politically correct drivel from a wuss who has allowed the other side to impact the way you look at things. And I recommend you grow a pair, and then get genuinely informed about the subjects you weigh in on before tossing condemnation on those who have clearly done considerably more research than you have.


62 posted on 01/30/2009 1:55:52 PM PST by raptor29
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To: raptor29
the Jews

Don't we have "our" Jews? Universals always sting ya, bud. There are millions of conservative Jews, they just don't get the attention the leftists do.

63 posted on 01/30/2009 1:58:46 PM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: SJackson

Not an ounce of substance to anything you have posted, just this open-mouthed expression of ‘well, I never’. Yeah, shock that someone might utter some truth that makes you uncomfortable. You still haven’t said anything, and anyone who denies that the American jewish community has not been predominantly left-leaning and left-leading over the past 40 years is just intellectually dishonest.


64 posted on 01/30/2009 2:00:50 PM PST by raptor29
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To: metesky

I made a generalization, not a universal statement. The generalization is accurate to anyone with an ounce of intellectual honesty. You’re forced to change the original point to make yours. Probably learned that in your own Saul Alinsky readings.


65 posted on 01/30/2009 2:03:12 PM PST by raptor29
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To: raptor29

Trying to express a reasoned opinion to an nonredeemable bigot was a wast of my time. This is my last post on this thread and my last post to you ever so feel free to vent your heart out.

I just have two questions.

Have you ever actually known anybody Jewish or are your views based exclusively on your extensive research on the various Jewish conspiracies that have thwarted your life?

If less than 2% of the nation’s population can exert as much influence as you obviously believe the Jewish community does, should you not bow down before them?


66 posted on 01/30/2009 2:20:52 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: mountainlion

I saw her tell her story just the other day but it was a much later video, watching this video shook me. That video needs to be required viewing in our schools.


67 posted on 01/30/2009 2:23:31 PM PST by RipSawyer (Great Grandpa was a Confederate soldier from the cradle of secession.)
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To: TonyM

I live in Texas, and yes, that’s a nice aspect of living in the South. Planning a trip to a gun show tomorrow, but I’ve only bought a gun from a dealer once, back in 1970 from a dealer that closed long ago. It’s otherwise been from individuals or inherited from family members.


68 posted on 01/30/2009 2:50:46 PM PST by Marauder (If more people understood liberals, they'd never be elected again.)
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To: raptor29

Weak. Really weak.


69 posted on 01/30/2009 3:06:01 PM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Hey numb-nuts, why don’t you read the thread and the posts before making such stupid claims. At no point did I express any statement about Jewish conspiracies or some reference to their 2% of the population. I posted the truth, which you don’t seem to want to address or acknowledge, which is that the Jewish community in America has been predominantly and aggressively a left-leaning, left-leading demographic, and as such, have caused considerable harm to this country in the process. And none of your time-worn, ragged counters that you’ve probably used for decades have any impact on me, I’ve seen and heard it all. And I’ve also seen how badly this country has slipped. So go call everybody a bigot, but I really couldn’t care less.


70 posted on 01/30/2009 4:09:07 PM PST by raptor29
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To: metesky

The points I made are accurate. Anyone with an ounce of intellectual honesty must acknowledge that the Jewish community in America has been predominantly a left-leaning and left-leading demographic, for decades. As such, on the whole, they have undermined the best interests of this country.


71 posted on 01/30/2009 4:11:34 PM PST by raptor29
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To: FrPR

What a clownish post, yet another for you on this thread. How about actually reading the posts you are so quick to counter? How do you come to your Pat Buchanan conclusions based on what I posted? My reference to Buchanan was clearly applicable to this discussion, as he has also been attacked repeatedly, over decades, for being one of the few to publicly condemn the influence of groups like AIPAC and the ADL. And you spout the same ‘you’re a bigot’ drivel those groups do when challenged, which is why I used the term “stereotypical” to describe the nature of your complaints here.

And please, before you attempt to question my ‘grammar’ or ‘usage’, have a closer look at your own in your posts. And again, for the fourth time, could you please address the original point I made in this thread, which was that THE JEWISH COMMUNITY IN AMERICA HAS BEEN PREDOMINANTLY A LEFT-LEANING AND LEFT-LEADING DEMOGRAPHIC (got it?) and as such, has had a very negative impact on the U.S.


73 posted on 01/30/2009 5:41:27 PM PST by raptor29
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To: Marauder
In case people missed it, there's a terrific link in the article.

Written by a psychiatrist, it explains the gun-grabber mentality and how to deal with it effectively:

Psychiatrist's view of anti-gun folks

74 posted on 01/30/2009 6:16:50 PM PST by Bob
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To: FrPR
I wish to thank a few of you for your profound insights about the Jews.

No problemo, good buddy.

My pound of flesh is on the way! But lay offa the Manischewitz until I get there.

76 posted on 01/31/2009 8:50:47 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Obama campaigned in Kenya for Jihadist Church-Burner Odinga. Didn't McCain know?)
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