Posted on 01/28/2009 7:50:39 PM PST by neverdem
by Jim Kouri, Law Enforcement Examiner
"Gun control fanatics, frustrated in their attempts to impose severely restrictive regulations on the gun rights of law-abiding American citizens, apparently think that if they push severe restrictions on ammunition acquisition and possession, they'll come closer to their objective of restricting if not eliminating the individual Second Amendment civil right to keep and bear arms," says John M. Snyder, named Washington's senior gun rights activist.
With a liberal Democrat now sitting in the Oval Office and both houses of the US Congress boasting Democrat majorities, lawmakers in Washington, DC and around the country are displaying renewed interest in gun control legislation, according to sources within both law enforcement and gun owner rights communities.
"Ever since the so-called 'Beltway Sniper' case in 2001, there's been talk about not just gun registration, but ammo registration. This will make it mandatory for manufacturers of firearms ammunition to number every cartridge they make and to keep records of those cartridges," said Lt. Steven Rodgers, a cop in New Jersey.
"Can't control guns? Well, they'll control the ammunition," he added during an interview with NewswithViews.com.
While a federal law is being considered by proponents of such laws, gun owners in individual states are witnessing what's referred to as Ammunition Accountability Acts being pushed through they're state legislatures by impatient lawmakers.
Ammunition Accountability, a liberal gun control organization, has developed sample legislation to achieve its purposes and reports that versions of it have been introduced in the legislatures of Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee and Washington, according to John Snyder.
While state legislatures differ in the wording of their proposed laws, basically they all require that any and all ammunition be encoded by the manufacturer and they will maintain a mandatory data base of all ammunition sales.
"We of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms oppose this backdoor approach to gun control," stated Snyder, an official with that gun rights group.
The sample legislation would stipulate that, “each year in the United States, more than 30 percent of all homicides that involve a gun go unsolved; handgun ammunition accounts for 80 percent of all ammunition sold in the United States; current technology for matching a bullet used in a crime to the gun that fired it has worked moderately well for years, but presupposes that the weapon was recovered by law enforcement;” and “bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons of interest in gun crime investigations.”
"If this new proposed Ammo Accountability Act legislation is only another attempt to chip away at the 2nd Amendment, it is just plain wrong. Since the 2nd Amendment defines a citizens "right" to defend themselves, with a gun, it clearly does not address ammunition. What a novel way to "back door" the issue" said Josephine County, Oregon's Sheriff Gil Gilbertson.
"It is clearly no secret, many in our government would like to see America disarmed. Our government has authored books mapping out a strategy on how to do just that. Simply look back in history to see what happened after people lost their arms and ability to defend themselves," he told NewswithViews.com.
"Our government leaders slash funding in support of law enforcement throughout America, leaving our citizens more vulnerable - but on the other hand feel compelled to send hundreds of millions of dollars, each year, to enhance police in foreign Countries. Weaker law enforcement coupled with escalating crime is a receipt for disaster," said the career lawman.
Ammunition coding technology works by laser etching the back of each bullet with an alpha-numeric serial number. Then when a customer purchases a box of, for example, 9mm cartridges, the box of ammunition and the bullets’ coding numbers would be connected to the purchaser in a statewide or national database.
The code on the bullet can be read with a simple magnifying glass and then be run through a statewide or national database to determine who purchased the ammunition and where.
The rationale being used by proponents of such laws is that cartridges can be used to trace a gun owner who committed a crime such as murder or assault with a deadly weapon, according to the National Association for Gun Rights' Executive Director Dudley Brown.
< http://www.nationalgunrights.org/index.shtml >
But opponents of ammo registration laws counter that this will only increase the incidents of criminals collecting spent cartridges and depriving police of other evidence such as fingerprints on a cartridge left at the crime scene.
"NAGR's strategy is simple: make the enemies of our firearms freedoms pay for every inch. While many so-called "gun rights groups" work to curry favor with politicians and the media, NAGR is working aggressively to hold politicians accountable and to put a stop to gun control," said Brown.
At the federal level, H.R. 408 introduced by Rep. Robert Andrews (D-NJ) a new law would require firearms manufacturers to provide ballistics information on all new firearms to BATF, which would retain the information in a National Firearms Ballistics Database. Critics claim part of this bill will be used to mandate encoding ammunition, which is part and parcel of "ballistics" information.
"[Lawmakers] should ignore the media hype on the firearms issue and pay attention to what the public – their constituents – are saying on the matter,” gun rights expert John M. Snyder stated.
“According to an August poll conducted by Zogby International for Associated Television News, the American public rejects the notion that new gun control laws are needed by a two-to-one margin,” Snyder continued.
“Maybe the House of Representatives should have taken a reading of public opinion on this issue before rushing headlong without a roll call vote to pass a bill before the recess,” said Snyder, who is a firearms advisor for the National Association of Chiefs of Police. < http://www.expertclick.com/NewsReleaseWire/default.cfm?Action=ViewMyNews&NRWID=6042 >
It would provide that, after a specific date, all handgun and “assault weapon” ammunition manufactured or sold in the state shall be coded by the manufacturer, and would include a list of all calibers covered by the coding requirement. It would mandate the disposal by a certain date of all non-coded ammunition listed, whether owned by private citizens or retail outlets.
The Dems have 50 years of gun grabbing ideas laying dusty on the shelf. With Obama and both houses in the crazy camp, they have already dusted off several and are putting them on the docket. With the Dems in control, I think it will be more of a blunt instrument like gun licensing or just an out and out ban. There is no need for the sneaky stuff when Obama has already told us, "He won".
I think a great deal will depend on the resistance they get when this stuff is implemented. We may as well get used to screaming about every mention of Second Amendment restrictions. After the drubbing the Dems took after Clinton lost the house and Senate, the Dems ARE "gun shy" about getting too froggy. Was it the tax hike, gays in the military, gun control measures, or a combo of items that gave them the largest drubbing in history. I think, in the South, it was gun control measures. The Blue Dogs, just couldn't vote for gun control and keep their seats. They have such a majority now, I think we may have some real trouble.
Appropriate application of attention will be required to effectively change the hearts and minds of the proper groups of people. The folks who need to be convinced of the error of their way include politicians and bureaucrats at all levels, pressitutes and their cheerleaders, like members of the Brady bunch and their ilk.
Until all of these people understand that their advocacy of or attempts at infringing on or removing our rights, and attempting to make us serfs, means the strong possibility of very real, and very personal consequences, they will gladly keep sending the "poor bastards that want to die for their country" after those of us who just want to be left alone, while they sit snugly in their homes and the LSM cheers them on.
No threat stated or implied here, just an observation,
“Um, does your hammer make you nervous?”
Only when I’m lowering it with a live round in the chamber
and even if he was a chief in the housing police before the merger there were no "chiefs" of single housing projects.
the housing cops were cops. this guys lists everything he has ever done on his website, but the word "cop" never appears. something is not right.
There really should be a law that anyone who write gun legislation needs to spend at least 1000 hours at the range.
We may not have that option. I hope there are enough pro-RKBA Democrats because I know too many in the GOP have lost their spine on this crucial issue.
I think there would be a slim majority that would “just follow orders”. Them, along with Zero’s new Civil “Peacecorps”, TSA, Vaterland Defense, and most of the civilian law enforcement would be on the side of perpetuating even an unConstitutional government.
More likely this:
Rev 13:16-17 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads. And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
With the WORLDWIDE economic & finaicial chaos going on it has set the stage for the cashless society and then this way the world leader controls & regulates everyone's life.
bump for later.
depends on the cartridge. unique is about the most common powder around. you can load just about any pistol with it and it is also used in shotguns. red dot and green dot are also common shotgun powders and can be used as pistol powders.
Or even easier, Mr Criminal uses fake ID using your name to buy ammo. The cops then come looking for you instead of him.
Yes. Ninety percent at least. Keyboard blustering of molon labe notwithstanding, most of us will surrender without a shot being fired.
Give it a few years, and the amount of long-life ammo would be much smaller.
These people are drunk with power and are steamrolling all their pet projects over the American people.
Good Lord - could they take a little break so we can come up for air??????
Sounds like we are on the verge of many more “Ruby Ridges.”
It would be sort of amusing if the crooks would replace rifle powder with a like volume of pistol or shotgun powder ...
But ... PLEASE!!!!
Don't Do It.
Some powders are perfectly good for both shotgun and pistol.
That’s what I was referring to.
In a pinch, and with trial and error, I’m sure a lot of things would work just fine. Just dropping any old flammable substance into a cartridge is a REALLY bad idea.
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