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I'm wondering if the Army is putting soldiers suffering from PTSD into recruiting positions, thinking this will be an easy job for them, when it is not.
1 posted on 01/27/2009 10:22:43 AM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Good point.


2 posted on 01/27/2009 10:25:32 AM PST by Islander7 (LOST TAGLINE - If found, please return. LARGE Reward.)
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To: smokingfrog
Low morale, stress among factors in Army recruiter suicides

Not to be snarky, but wouldn't these things also be factors in any suicide?

3 posted on 01/27/2009 10:28:35 AM PST by Funee Kat
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To: smokingfrog

Low morale caused by Dems, not Republicans. The Dems are not supporting what they are doing and have basically said they are losing from the get go.


4 posted on 01/27/2009 10:28:56 AM PST by Blogger (Barack Obama is not God. But, he will answer to Him someday..)
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To: smokingfrog

NO, but they do pressure recruiters with unrealistic expectations and DEMANDS, like an auto salesman but worse. Excuse me, but soldiers are not out-of-control wackos, I wish people would get a grip on that.

PTSD can factor in with COMBAT soliders and yes, there are recruiters that are combat Infantry vets but more realistically are the demands for higher numbers of recruits.

Like my generation of Vietnam vets claiming PTSD and acting whacky having never served a day in a combat ZONE, much less a unit within a combat zone. Some never made it through basic training, the military is pretty darn good about weeding this kind of soldier/Marine out.

Now, they are taking more pains and screening for true PTSD much better and are able to help soldiers having problems transitioning back into “the world” after dealing with ambushes and IEDs for a year to 1 1/2 yr. deployments sometimes three such deployments.

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!


5 posted on 01/27/2009 10:31:20 AM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: smokingfrog
This is what happens when morally impotent presidents like the Bushes don't let our boys win and finish our wars. The stresses can be dealt with, the losses justified, IF IT MATTERED.

SENTINEL = USMC Desert Storm Vet

6 posted on 01/27/2009 10:32:06 AM PST by SENTINEL (Bxxxxx Box, Jxxx Box, Cxxxxxxxx Box, (Censored due to loss of 1st Amendment))
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To: smokingfrog
If anyone thinks recruiting’s gonna get easier once the Obama social experiments begin, they're nuts; but since I believe that the Democrats want to create a situation in which the draft will have to be re instituted (with GOP acquiescence), I doubt that they'll be heartbroken about this situation.
7 posted on 01/27/2009 10:33:21 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: smokingfrog

Other than actual combat, it’s probably the most stressful job in the Army. Having to meet quotas is difficult in any environment.

There probably needs to be some reform in the Army’s recruiting system. The current system, frankly, encourages recruiters to behave like used car salesmen, and that’s just the wrong approach for something as serious as this. There needs to be a lot more focus on getting quality, motivated recruits who have made an informed decision rather than just stuffing MEPS with as many warm bodies as possible. It would not only lead to a higher-quality volunteer force, but it would probably make recruiting a much less stressful and more fulfilling assignment.

Now, I should qualify this by saying that my knowledge of Army recruiting practices may be a few years out of date. However, knowing how the Army is as an institution, I rather doubt many drastic changes have been made since then.

Now, I haven’t studies this enough to give a lot of specific suggestions, but I do think that less money spent on goofy commercials and more on pay incentives for soldiers would be a nice start.


8 posted on 01/27/2009 10:34:57 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: smokingfrog
Turner said his investigation found evidence of a poor command climate inside the Houston battalion, which has lost four recruiters to suicide since 2005, including two who hanged themselves within weeks of each other last year. All four soldiers had served in Iraq or Afghanistan before being reassigned to recruiting duty, a job considered one of the most stressful in the Army, especially during wartime.

All suicides are tragic. But are military suicide rates really that much higher than civilians in similar high stress jobs?

10 posted on 01/27/2009 10:37:29 AM PST by iowamark
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To: smokingfrog; IowaHawk; dighton; abb; weegee; Grampa Dave; Liz
Journalism is apparently pretty stressful, too.

It's just that reporting on "Journos Gone Bonkers" doesn't fit the MSM's agenda.

12 posted on 01/27/2009 10:41:45 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: smokingfrog

The Left who claim to also “Support The Troops” will mistreat recruiters in a heartbeat. Recruiters have been called liars and “child preadtors” by those bastards.

They go into recruiting offices and trash the place, throw paint on the building and even vadalize their cars.

But don’t question The Left’s patriotism.

I don’t. I know they are traitors.


15 posted on 01/27/2009 10:52:12 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Somewhere In Kenya, A Village Is Missing It's Idiot)
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To: smokingfrog

deid recruitment numbers drop dramatically after November?


20 posted on 01/27/2009 11:40:38 AM PST by GeronL (Had the flu. Not well yet.)
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