[LifeComesFirst]

Call me a commie but I don’t see how relocating a prison and doing away with waterboarding means the end of the WoT. Does it impede the WoT? Arguably; I think the jury is still out on waterboarding’s effectiveness. Let’s not all lose our heads like the Democrats did over Bush.

That said, this seems to me to be either a lateral move or a very tiny step backwards, not a full fledged white flag. Let’s wait until he *really* screws up.

[dsc]

Arguably; I think the jury is still out on waterboarding’s effectiveness.”

Never been to SERE school, eh?

Anybody can be broken.

And do you really want those terrorist scum on US soil, being released into US society by demonrat judges?

If you want to do something in the war on terror, buy a gun, because the government is in the hands of lunatics.

[do the dhue]

You are welcome to ask Khalid Sheik Mohammad if water boarding works.

And it is understanding that Obozo has also brought an end to offensive operations in Iraq.

Now, listen to your own words: tiny steps backward.

If Obozo takes enough tiny steps backwards, eventually he will be a long way away from being able to protect America.

In my view, this is what Obozo wants (see the video below).

We need to be paying very close attention to what is going on right now. While we are paying attention, I don't think we should we should be comparing ourselves to the deranged left.

Here is a video for your enjoyment:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5921629142284078851

[Paladin2]

"means the end of the WoT"

It's not a WoT, it's a militarized response to Jihad. We should be following the Sharia laws of war in pursuing it.

[leadhead]

not a full fledged white flag. Let’s wait until he *really* screws up.

BHO has recineded ALL Executive Orders issued after 9/11. Throughout our "intelligence" apparatus there are programs and missions that are now effectively cancelled because nothing has been issued as a directive on how or if they should proceed.

Information that was critical to the defense of the country on January 19, 2009 is no longer of interest today.

I guess it all depends on the definition of *really* screwed up.

[Caipirabob]

Call me a commie but I don’t see how relocating a prison and doing away with waterboarding means the end of the WoT. Does it impede the WoT?

Because one thing that bringing them here does is tie them up within the legal beurocracy and miles of red tape. They can obtain lawyers, sue, and sue, then sue some more. They can get assume rights of American citizens within the American legal system. They can recruit from the prison population. They can also pose and incredible danger to facility guards and the general prison population, some who may have hope of rehabilitation one day.

It's a legal nightmare that only the mind of a democrat could embrace.

[familyop]

"Call me a commie but I don’t see how relocating a prison and doing away with waterboarding means the end of the WoT. Does it impede the WoT?"

Agreed. There are repeated distractions sent through the media about attempts to snoop out and police up enemy guerrilla warfare attacks before they happen. That works sometimes and to some extents.

But if we fought a real and willful war to defeat the enemy, we'd have gas rationing and more domestic manufacturing. We gather a general picture from our sponsored media of what is going on around us.

But some of our key business and political leaders have other perceptions of what is happening and other priorities. They certainly don't want freight fuel prices going very high (re. the bribes and Ponzi schemes supporting extreme trade imbalances). My advice to all is to avoid watching much television and work toward getting a place in a rural area.