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Winning coach in 100-0 victory fired
Yahoo/CBS11 ^ | 1-26-09

Posted on 01/26/2009 11:33:04 AM PST by GeronL

DALLAS (CBS) ―

The coach of a Texas high school basketball team that beat another team 100-0 reportedly was fired Sunday, the same day he sent an e-mail to a newspaper stating he will not apologize "for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity" and posted a detailed explanation on a hoops Web site.

The Covenant School girls basketball coach Coach Micah Grimes, along with girls from his team, released a statement on the website of the Flight Basketball Academy.

Kyle Queal, the headmaster for Covenant School, said in The Dallas Morning News online edition that he could not answer if the firing was a direct result of Grimes' e-mail disagreeing with administrators who called the blowout "shameful."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: athletics; christianschools; coach; fired
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To: beandog

To use a phrase from Lenin, those 0bamaites are useful idiots. Their wisdom may be in academics, but their intelligence is compromised by idiocy.


181 posted on 01/26/2009 1:50:59 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: bereanway

“Getting excited about scoring 100 on a team that hasn’t won a game in 4 years and includes handicapped kids is pretty pathetic.”

Coaching and HS sports are about more than just winning, running the score up.

The “winning” coach can’t give his players something he doesn’t have: Class.


182 posted on 01/26/2009 1:51:32 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: r9etb
The school, however, seems to have the impression that Mr. Grimes is not a good fit for them

I'd believe that if the school fired him that night or the next day. They didn't. They only fired him after some candy ass sports writer got his panties all in a twist and wrote an artcle full of inaccuracies and awful insinuations.

183 posted on 01/26/2009 1:53:20 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: rbmillerjr

I would fully expect my employer to fire me if I publicly disagreed with them. I wouldn’t like it, and I might feel I had done the right thing, but they can certainly fire me for it if the choose.


184 posted on 01/26/2009 1:53:25 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: beandog

LOL, all of you guys need to grow up.

It was poor sportsmanship. You either get that or you have no morals.

It seems the market of free ideas is a conservative principle, but now some of you don’t like that.


185 posted on 01/26/2009 1:54:29 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Colin Powell types begged for McCain moderates and then voted Democrat.)
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To: beandog

I think they didn’t believe that it was part of his job to make a public statement disagreeing with them.


186 posted on 01/26/2009 1:54:33 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: beandog

Christian schools generally hold their employees and their students to a higher standard. BTW I taught at a Christian school. I know this would not have happened in our school. The coaches were more concerned about building Christian athletes than in making star players.


187 posted on 01/26/2009 1:58:51 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: Republic of Texas

Again, he should have been smarter than to publicly criticize his employer. I don’t know many employers who wouldn’t fire you or I for that.


188 posted on 01/26/2009 1:59:38 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: brytlea
We have all been told that the objective in school sports is to build character, learn sportsmanship, etc. But, hey, clearly some do think the objective is to simply win games.

Building character, learning sportsmanship, etc. have real-life applications. They teach people to do things the right way. The "simply win games" approach teaches kids lessons such as, the end justifies the means. And in later life, it leads to behavior of the sort that caused the current banking crisis.

189 posted on 01/26/2009 2:04:05 PM PST by r9etb
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To: beandog

I don’t think Grimes worked for the school other than to coach the girls basketball team. I’m not sure what his employment is.

The Dallas Academy team hasn’t won a game according to some articles I’ve read. The Dallas Covenant school apparently started a basketball program four years ago and went from a start up to a contender for the state championship last year. They even lost a game early on in their program 80 something to 6, if I remember correctly.

There are two sides to this story of which we’ll most likely never know all the facts. Apparently the game was played at Covenant so why didn’t the Covenant school officials step in and stop the game themselves instead of waiting until now to forfiet and appoligize?... Other articles I’ve read said the home crowd was cheering the team on towards the 100 point mark of which they obtained. The Academy coach said they didn’t tape the game but that maybe Covenant did. A video would show a little more of what truly went on without the emotions tied to it.

The Academy coach said his girls got off 7 shots at the basket. The Covenant girls made 4 three point attempts so basically I see it as a running game which employed. Steal the ball and run for the layup.


190 posted on 01/26/2009 2:04:29 PM PST by deport
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To: beandog

LOL I can tell you that even Christian schools will fire you if you don’t follow their rules, and/or if you publicly criticize them.
I doubt this was his sole income, (not really sure he was paid, but maybe) since it was stated he did not otherwise work or teach at the school. I don’t know many schools that can afford a fully paid coach who doesn’t also do something else at the school.


191 posted on 01/26/2009 2:04:37 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: brytlea
Whoever scheduled the game should have been fired two days ago. After that, if the coach goes public with his personal views, he only has himself to blame for the consequences.
192 posted on 01/26/2009 2:06:01 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Thumper1960

Absolutely correct.


193 posted on 01/26/2009 2:06:20 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: pgkdan

No, they fired him after he posted his disagreement with their statement on the internet. Really, many are ignoring that little factoid.


194 posted on 01/26/2009 2:07:29 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: r9etb

You’re exactly right. How many people are decrying the greedy people who didn’t need zillions more dollars but just continued raking in whatever they could at any cost (to other people)?
I am tired of living in a nation where most people don’t even know what a sense of honor is.


195 posted on 01/26/2009 2:09:35 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: Republic of Texas

Yeah, I don’t know how they schedule those things. My first teaching cert is PE but I will publicly admit I have never taught PE and never was interested in that or coaching (Just had an Exercise Phys degree when I decided to go into teaching).


196 posted on 01/26/2009 2:11:38 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: All

During the second half, The Covenant School players could have done something really hard — teaching the other players while playing the game. If they did it well, then next time they might have some challenging competition instead of a team they could walk over.


197 posted on 01/26/2009 2:15:24 PM PST by Aroostook25
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To: William Tell
I have played basketball at the D-1 level, I have coached AAU, to answer your asinine questions:

“What score would have been acceptable to you? 50-0? 25-0? 1-0? “ I would have had my players let them shoot, no pressure on the ball, pass 20 times before shooting. My worst players would have played the majority of the game, I would have asked the opposing coach if we could let the clock run. Then whatever score it ended up would be OK with me.

2. “What circumstances need to exist to justify failing to play competitively?” I dunno, maybe a 50 point lead against a team with disabled kids.

3. “Who, exactly, has been victimized by the actual result? What responsibility does any other party have to eliminate this “victimization”?” The victimized were the players on the winning team who should have been taught sportsmanship.

4. “ I understand that the losing team has never won a game. Should all of the other teams have refused to play them? Is there no value whatever to playing and losing?”
Your best question, this game should not have been scheduled, there is no value for anyone when the discrepancy in talent is too great.

5. “Do you support banning the losing team from playing any more? If not, what guidance do you supply for their opposition? Certainly you owe the coaches of the other teams proper notice of what constitutes cause for them to be fired.” Not worthy of a response.

Your comments remind me of why I quit coaching, too many ass****s. What in the hell has happended to this site?

198 posted on 01/26/2009 2:41:50 PM PST by don'tbedenied
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To: pgkdan
It be even more humiliating to me to be on the court and have the opposing teamn not even try to take a shot because they felt sorry for us.

C'mon. After a point even an NFL team will ease off a bit.

199 posted on 01/26/2009 3:13:15 PM PST by skeeter
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To: don'tbedenied
My worst players would have played the majority of the game

Note that, if other articles are correct, the Covenant team also has only 8 players. Therefore, there's no difference between 'playing the 5 worst players for the majority of the game', and 'leaving in two of the starters for the majority of the game', right?
200 posted on 01/26/2009 3:26:47 PM PST by Mariebl
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