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1 posted on 01/25/2009 8:11:53 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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Nationalized health care? Do you LIKE the DMV?


2 posted on 01/25/2009 8:23:16 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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...if Americans think health care is expensive now, just wait ‘til it’s free!


4 posted on 01/25/2009 8:27:15 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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Youth in Asia will be the name of the program they will institute. Worked great in 1930's Germany, got rid of lots of useless eaters and old folks who thought they could retire and be useless. Boy, I tell you, socialism just needs to be tried againand again till they get it right. Hopefully someone will be left by then.



Ideas are more powerful than guns. If we don't let our people have guns, why should we let them have ideas?
-- Josef Stalin



5 posted on 01/25/2009 8:39:38 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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There’s a lot of fraud in our health care system in various forms and it starts from the suppliers of medical equipment all the way up to some insurance companies. Yet no one addresses that.

Cut the fraud and cut the cost first.


6 posted on 01/25/2009 9:02:32 PM PST by Outland (So when do we stop typing and start doing something?)
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The way to cut medical costs is to limit liability. A friend who does heart and lung transplants pays over $100,000/year just in malpractice insurance. And, having experience in the British NHS, I’d like to clue Americans in......Socialized Medicine denies care all the time. That’s something they rarely tell you when trying to sell nationalized health care.


7 posted on 01/25/2009 9:12:26 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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The Socialists don’t care so much about our having health care as they do about having power over us. I guess we’ve finally become too stupid to figure that out.


8 posted on 01/25/2009 9:15:58 PM PST by VR-21
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It is a myth that people in EU have better health care than we do. Much of that misconception is based on “live birth” survival rates. Turns out that in other countries “live birth” is determined by weight, length of newborn. We try to save all. They don’t which distorts comparison.
It is a myth that US citizens don’t have health care. They are uninsured, but they are not denied medical treatment and do not die on the streets unattended. The problem is not health care it is insurance. Insurance is misused as payment for primary care. It should be for extraordinary events.
Another factor is the power of the AMA which acts as a union prohibiting intermediary levels of medical care which would increase the number of practioners and thereby decrease costs. Case in point was the struggle of midwives 20 years ago.
Trial lawyers are contributing a great deal to the cost of medical treatment in this country and is one of the factors that should be considered in bringing down costs.
And, yes, the current system is rife with fraud which is easily managed when the bills pass through several systems and are rarely checked.


9 posted on 01/25/2009 9:44:09 PM PST by Bhoy
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Works great in Germany, France, all the Nordic countries, the Netherlands and Japan.

Only reason you get the reports from Canada and Britain is because American reporters cant speak other languages.

The system works wonderfully elsewhere. The German combination of public/private care is the most ideal. You still have the full range of choice and everyone is covered and it costs 3% less of GDP than in the US.

Oh yeah, lawyers can’t sue docotors for everything.

Universal health care only works with Tort reform. Anything else will be a complete disaster.


10 posted on 01/25/2009 11:06:33 PM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Bomb Liechtenstein!)
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21 posted on 01/27/2009 11:16:27 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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