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Deep in Debt, and Now Deep in Worry (pls feel sorry for the irresponsible)
NYT ^ | 01/25/09 | BEN STEIN

Posted on 01/25/2009 3:52:00 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Deep in Debt, and Now Deep in Worry

By BEN STEIN

NOT long ago, a woman in California called me for advice. She is divorced, with two children, and has a series of interlocking financial problems.

She lives in a lovely home in a stylish inland enclave. It has an interest-only mortgage of about $2.2 million that requires a payment of $12,000 a month, very roughly. It was last appraised at $2.7 million, but who knows if it’s now worth anything remotely close to that price.

The woman, whom I’ve known since she was a teenager, has no job or other remunerative employment. She has a former husband, an entrepreneur whose business has suffered recently. He pays her $20,000 a month, of which roughly half is alimony and half child support. The alimony is scheduled to stop this summer.

She has a wealthy beau who pays her credit card bills and other incidentals, but she is thinking of telling him she is through with him. She has no savings and has refinanced her home repeatedly, always adding to indebtedness and then putting the money into a shop she owns that has never come close to earning a dime. Now she is up all night worrying about money. “Terrified,” as she put it. She wanted me to tell her what to do.

What could I say? I did the best I could, but I had to tell her that she was on very thin ice.

Ever since, I’ve been thinking of the troubles of this sweet woman, consumed with worry about money.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benstein; financialcrisis; irresponsibility
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Ben Stein should feel more compassion toward those whom he screwed up with 'outrageously' misleading comments in his numerous appearances on business media.
1 posted on 01/25/2009 3:52:00 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; bamahead; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/25/2009 3:52:29 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I thought this was from the Onion!


3 posted on 01/25/2009 3:53:52 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: TigerLikesRooster
It's amazing Ben Stein is still employable. 

YouTube - August 18, 2007 - Peter Schiff Versus Ben Stein ...

Peter Schiff tries to tell the world to stay away from financials because they are toxic. He gets beaten down like the red headed step child.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYX1AgEV0vo



4 posted on 01/25/2009 3:57:19 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Dr. Ursus
See how deluded financial elites are? They consider themselves people of privilege, modern day aristocrats. Their sense of entitlement and narcissism is truly astounding in its scope. This is a real surprise for me, even though I don't have much illusions about them.
5 posted on 01/25/2009 3:58:25 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Dr. Ursus

** I thought this was from the Onion!**

Agree - stupidity posturing as satire!

That *sweet*, high-priced hooker should have thought before she bought the mansion.......whose money and which lending institution???

Raising her children.... and a new beau paying her bills? Loverly, just loverly.


6 posted on 01/25/2009 4:01:52 AM PST by sodpoodle
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This women must be terrorized out of her mind if she calls a fool like Ben Stein for financial advice. Ben Stein should be laughed off the air and be sued for every dime he has made by lying. This Financial Genius is a lying fool.


7 posted on 01/25/2009 4:08:20 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Lets see.

Lives in a home she can’t afford: Check
Gets a payout she doesn’t deserver(Ali-money):Check
Someone else pays her bills: Check
Has a losing Boutique: Check
Is currently living off someone but wants to punt him so she can get something better: Check
Refinanced her home every time she needed more walking around cash: Check

Whooo boy. What an entitled See you next Tuesday.

Here’s how this works in the rational world:

1. MOVE. Eat the loss or do a short sale.
2. Deal with the fact that husband #1s largesse doesn’t belong to you any longer
3. Dump your losing business
4. Stop spending money
5. WORK! Pump gas, run grocieries, WORK!!!. Your current and former job of leeching off a man is about lose significant value when the court allows prior husband to stop paying you.
6. Make current boyfriend’s toes curl as he’s your only income stream of significant value.


8 posted on 01/25/2009 4:19:13 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua

Sounds like her brain is between her legs.

I pity her first husband.


9 posted on 01/25/2009 4:26:10 AM PST by Venturer
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Satire, right?


10 posted on 01/25/2009 4:28:59 AM PST by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
LOL..i shouldn't laugh at her plight, but i couldn't help but thinking...

the poster child of an Obamabot!

11 posted on 01/25/2009 4:33:10 AM PST by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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I agree that she must have voted for Obama. If she did not, that would be a great surprise.:-)
12 posted on 01/25/2009 4:36:37 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Dr. Ursus

“Learn a useful skill that Americans really need, like law or plumbing or medicine or nursing.”

Like we need more lawyers...


13 posted on 01/25/2009 4:37:21 AM PST by benewton
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To: iopscusa

She called Ben hoping he would bail her out.


14 posted on 01/25/2009 4:38:48 AM PST by Carley (Remember when we had a real President)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

In stories like these, I think the unmarried boyfriends who foot the bill for such lifestyles are more foolish than the woman who is the subject of this story.


15 posted on 01/25/2009 4:40:35 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Ever since, I’ve been thinking of the troubles of this sweet woman, consumed with worry about money.

That’s easy. marry her and assume the debt. She won’t have to worry any more.


16 posted on 01/25/2009 4:45:52 AM PST by chainsaw
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Now she is up all night worrying about money. “Terrified,” as she put it. She wanted me to tell her what to do...

Jesus, I went to see if this was Scrappleface, but it really is The Matrix that most people are enmeshed within.

He worries for this lady who has no real job, no real skills, no real education, no real productivity, and who lives off of other people's money in a house that I could only dream of living in?

I worry for the America that let our education sink this low.

choice is an illusion between those with power - and those without

17 posted on 01/25/2009 4:46:16 AM PST by bill1952 (McCain and the GOP were worthless)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Ben denied his own son the most valuable thing his father taught him - live within your means. At 20+ it may be too late.

And his “lady” “friend” was looking for a handout, as were the others in their Christmas newsletters. He was probably the only one to get that version of the story.


18 posted on 01/25/2009 4:50:15 AM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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And all of this is compounded again because my handsome son, age 21, a student, has just married a lovely young woman, 20. You may have seen on television the pudgy, aging face of their sole means of support.

Gee, Ben. Maybe you should have counseled your son instead of some "whore" who can't run her own life.

19 posted on 01/25/2009 4:51:39 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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Maybe, upon second thought, I did not learn well about prudence. Then I think that maybe it’s too late for far too many of us. The age when money was a free good, available in unlimited quantities just for signing a note, may well be over. What the heck will we do when we have to start acting like mature adults? How will we cope with limits? With reality?

I think Ben has lost it. I saw him on Glenn Beck and he said the Govt. could keep printing as much money as it needs as long as we are in a deflationary period.

Deflation my ass! The idea that the CPI for last year is only one percent is just a blatant lie.

20 posted on 01/25/2009 4:53:49 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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