[FreeAtlanta]

At this point, if some states do manage to get laws in place to require the long form certificate to be shown before being on the next election ballot, I suspect enough colusion that a really good forgery will be positioned in Hawaii. It's hard to imagine why it hasn't already happened, unless

• 1. This issue is being used to controll and manipulate our new president, and giving him a good forgery would free him to do whatever he wants
• or 2. Fear that there is real evidence that he was born overseas and noone wants to risk tampering with the "vault" copies and being hung out to dry

[Polarik]

Fear that there is real evidence that he was born overseas and noone wants to risk tampering with the "vault" copies and being hung out to dry

Hawaii officials are guaring the vault BC as if it were the Shroud of Turin The BC is the property of Hawaii, not Obama, so there would have to be collusion with high-level officials to pull a smash and grab.

Obama knows for a fact that he cannot get his grubby little hands on it, and even if he could, its non-authenticity would be a lot easier to spot as a forgery than the image was.

[Danae]

It’s all plausible. What’s more, is anyone in Hawaii in 1961 could have registered a birth. Regardless of where the baby was actually born, he could easily have been born in Kenya and brought to Hawaii and then registered as having been born at a STREET ADDRESS as opposed to a hospital. He would then have a Hawaii Certificate of birth, but still have been born in Kenya. All it would take would be for his mom and a witness to lie. No one would have asked for any proof whats so ever. If there are real records in Kenya, thats relevant! If there are real records of Indonesian citizenship, THAT is relevant. His Immigration status is RELEVANT because if he held citizenship of ANY other country, Britain, Kenya, Indonesia, BY LAW can NOT be a Natural Born Citizen. He is a naturalized Citizen.