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To: Polarik
Thank you Polarik for going to the trouble of providing a cite. Some people seem to think it's not important.

This law provides a method through which parents might apply for a birth certificate for their child born elsewhere. Having a birth certificate is pretty much a requirement in this era and if you were out of the country when your child was born you might need recourse to method like ths. But it isn't carte blanche. They won't hand them out to just anyone.

"provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child."

There are rules. And it doesn't say the certificate will *lie* about anything, like where the child is born. In fact it shows a concern for fraud.

"The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate."

But even more importantly for us, do you know when this law was passed? Was it the law in 1961?

That bit at the bottom that looks like "[L 1982, c 182, §1]"? That means it was passed in 1982. Twenty one years after Obama was born.

157 posted on 01/24/2009 10:38:20 AM PST by mlo
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To: mlo; Polarik
But even more importantly for us, do you know when this law was passed? Was it the law in 1961?

That bit at the bottom that looks like "[L 1982, c 182, §1]"? That means it was passed in 1982. Twenty one years after Obama was born.

Hawaii did accept foreign birth which they issued birth certificates before that date.

167 posted on 01/24/2009 2:01:13 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: mlo
But even more importantly for us, do you know when this law was passed? Was it the law in 1961?

Well, someone should call the U of H library or the State Library and ask them to research it. My sense is that immigration laws were a lot more relaxed back then than they are now. America was not at war, not under the threat of terrorists, the memories of the internment camps were still fresh, and Hawaii was welcoming new residents to the newest State with open arms.

Sounds like the ideal place to bring in a foreign-born baby.

169 posted on 01/24/2009 2:55:29 PM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: Chief Engineer; LucyT; Calpernia

Pinging you because of this:

IIRC, the law was existant before 1982, and was updated at that time. This has been debated many times and I am reasonably certain one or more of you know the final word on the matter.

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This law provides a method through which parents might apply for a birth certificate for their child born elsewhere. Having a birth certificate is pretty much a requirement in this era and if you were out of the country when your child was born you might need recourse to method like ths. But it isn’t carte blanche. They won’t hand them out to just anyone.

“provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.”
There are rules. And it doesn’t say the certificate will *lie* about anything, like where the child is born. In fact it shows a concern for fraud.

“The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.”
But even more importantly for us, do you know when this law was passed? Was it the law in 1961?

That bit at the bottom that looks like “[L 1982, c 182, §1]”? That means it was passed in 1982. Twenty one years after Obama was born.


178 posted on 01/24/2009 7:12:54 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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